Green deal

[Eco Deal]

A green deal assessment first of all starts with a EPC

even if the property has a EPC would you trust it ??? NO

So I would first of all do the EPC again now this could take a good few hours including doing the software side of things

then there the ocupancy assessment which would take 2 hours just to walk around the house and find clients habits !

Now I cant see myself doing that for £45 ?

where did you get this info?

so my £1200 for the DEA and £90 for top up course and £1300 for green deal advisor would take me around 60 jobs to pay back !!!!

Thansk greg

Latest green Deal musings - £45 - £65 per Green Deal Assessment. I'm beginning to think someone has a serious sense of humour.

 

[Eco Deal]

Fuel poverty is if you spend more than 10% of your income on fuel bills ???

thats all the uk then!

 

[SRE]

A green deal assessment first of all starts with a EPC

even if the property has a EPC would you trust it ??? NO

So I would first of all do the EPC again now this could take a good few hours including doing the software side of things

then there the ocupancy assessment which would take 2 hours just to walk around the house and find clients habits !

Now I cant see myself doing that for £45 ?

where did you get this info?

so my £1200 for the DEA and £90 for top up course and £1300 for green deal advisor would take me around 60 jobs to pay back !!!!

Thansk greg

A lot of DEA's have received an email today with this offer. Needless to say they too are pretty disgusted! I think all the GDEA's should stick together and hold out for at least £200. Apparently none of the Green Deal courses have been accredited yet and they won't know until September whether the courses running now meet the relevant criteria. The whole thing is a shambles!

 

[sedgy34]

What a load of balls!! We offer finance now so people can take up a system not have to fork out for it and the tariff pays towards the finance loan
alot better than the shambles green deal the government have come up with towards solar

 

[SRE]

Sounds like a sensible idea to me - what sort of interest rate Sedgy?

 

[Eco Deal]

Well I have done the city and guilds course which they did state may change

 

[SRE]

ECO is supposed to be £1.3 billion a year. I haven't seen anything that indicates what the per property figure would be.

Had a quick online discussion with one of the utilities - there is a real concern that prices for external wall insulation won't stack up for private houses. Community schemes and social housing programmes have a chance to get economies of scale but individuals wanting ewi - ie my rural customers - are unlikely to hit the golden rule even with ECO.

It just seems to get worse every day :13:

 

[Worcester]

@SRE You and me in the same boat. Only thing is of course as EWI takes off because of the Social Housing, and more and more people do it, costs wil come down and then of course it MAY become affordable say in 18 months or so. We'll see.

 

[SRE]

Looks like beans til Christmas 2014 then :-(

 

[Earthstore]

PV was made affordable for social housing, and for all concerned a good idea really, but just look at all the non conformity's on every job, and panels installed both sides of chimneys etc etc, and most of us have only seen what is on the roofs, hell knows what the wiring is like..
Maybe this is the way forward with renewables, get it all done as cheap as possible and do not worry about the rules or how well it performs.

The Government have not got a clue, because they see hundreds of panels on social housing they think their "plan" working, so next we will see insulation stuck to the outside of these houses, and they will claim how great the Green Deal is...

Rant over for now...

 

[SRE]

Has anyone signed up for the Enact Green Deal newsletter? I've just had the first one through and it's got more up to date info than I've seen anywhere else. In short :

7.5% comes from the financial market being unwilling to fund Green Deal while it's unproven. Money is going to come from the Green Investment Bank but it's got to make a profit - so no low interest loans are possible. As Green Deal succeeds!!!! the plan is to sell the debt on (but it has to have grown to £multi-million to get a low interest rate) and then pension funds etc may enter the market. It explains why we're at 7.5% and maybe in time to come interest rates may be lower.

No commitment from govt about how the £200 million pump priming will be spent but clear indications that it will be cashback. Now add that to the £2 - £3k ish that you can take out as a loan for pv through Green Deal would that maybe get the price down low enough for not getting the Fit not to matter??

Enact are offering £50 for a referral that results in free insulation being installed, regardless of income. So if you can't pay people to have insulation, why are they going to pay 7.5% interest???

 

[Worcester]

Yep, at the same time they are clearly worried about the impact of it : - Back in May

Home energy efficiency expert, Enact Energy, is offering local authorities across Britain the opportunity to take part in a £100,000 marketing campaign during June to encourage local residents to take advantage of free home insulation before the Carbon Emission Reduction Target (CERT) funding permanently ends later this year

 

[Worcester]

For those of you that didn't get it, you can get it here: Green Deal Update 23 July

Which?, WWF, and Greenpeace have issued the clearest warning to date that the government's Green Deal energy-efficiency initiative will "fail" without urgent reforms of the financing scheme.

 

[SeanC]

I was keen to know if any of you have done much in the field of LED under the green deal?

Sean

 

[FaLcO_1_]

I thought the green deal was going to give pv a boost but after reading this thread, oh dear!!
I have been installing PV for over a year in Scotland and northern England for different companies just subbied but not working just now, does anyone know who has any PV work at present?