Guild of PAT Testers

[draelectricals]

where did the guild of PAT tester go...!!!

never seen as much crap in my life!!! did a google search for pat testing and got nothing on his site!! lol obviously spent loads getting it ranked high!! hahahahaa!!!!

Hi If you want to check out the Guild of PAT Testers, you need to go to patguild dot com there is no point searching on google as it doesn't come up - not even sure if it's registered. It doesn't have very good SEO so I'm not suprised it doesn't get found. Which is unusual I would have thought for such a 'regulatory body'.

There you can have a look around the site and see what you think, maybe comment on their 'code of practice' which to me looks like some very basic guidelines for carrying out pat testing rather than COP of a group, plus I'd say the writers own opinion on certain matters.

 

[RWJ]

Hi RwJ I must admit I've never heard of your approved group either, nor can I find it on Google - do you have a web address?

That's because it's very exclusive!!!!!!

 

[draelectricals]

That's because it's very exclusive!!!!!!

It must be! ha ha - I took a couple of days off and this thread has gone crazy, not sure who is taking the p@$$ and who is being serious now!

 

[Bradzz]

But lads come on, you get a free pen once memberships has been approved, approval time may vary due to waiting lispssss LOL.
I wonder if they have any form of insurance cover.
Banjo Insurance Co, run by Eddy Bananas.
underwritten by Tom --- & Pooh Bear, TP protection.

 

[hermetic]

Guild implies an association of trade profesionals who have served a thorough training and achieved a high standard in some or other field, given that the majority of pat testers trading today were unemployed people who used the "back to work grant" to buy a PAT tester and a two day training course the formation of a guild seems laughable. Pat testing is an unnesasary tax on business, and a way of increasing employment by first passing a law to require something to be tested, and then training testers! From the health and safety point of view it has made no difference to the already very low accident figures.There will of course be a charge for joining this "guild" Has no one noticed that there is more money in "training" and "trade Associations" (now compulsory membership) than there is in actually trading as an installer or maintainer of equipment. Reintroduction of the "closed shop"! Rant over.

 

[Michelle2909]

The history of the proper guild system is quite interesting
Guilds were your original controlling/Regulating bodies for most trades their Legal status was usually by royal ascent or royal charter, they were a cross between a secret society and a trade controlling body, Trade secrets were kept secret. They generally had 3 levels, Apprentice, Craftsman and master craftsman. Apprentices were apprenticed to a master craftsman for a set period at which they would be given all the sh!t jobs and only taught the basics of the trade until the master was sure they could be trusted with trade secrets. As an apprentice they were tied to one master and there were serious consequences for disobeying a master and if they ran away they could be imprisoned.
Upon completion of there Apprenticeship if they came up to scratch the guild they were affiliated with confirmed there status as Craftsman, they could then undertake work for themselves but could not take on apprentices, apprentices could only be taken on by a master craftsman.
For a Craftsman to become a Master craftsman he would become what was called a Journeyman he would undertake work for other masters in other areas and after a period of time as a Journeyman if his work was up to the standard the master craftsmen of his guild would confirm him as a Master craftsman and he could then take on his own apprentices.
As a note the Guild halls were originally meeting places of the guilds

This guild system died with the coming of capitalism and free trade as it was seen as restrictive to free trade.

 

[hermetic]

An excellent description of what the guilds were all about, which was to maintain excellence in a trade or profession by ensuring the training was thorough (seven years for most before they became a journeyman, and then only admitted as a master craftsman after they proved their ability) today we get a couple of days training, multiple choice exams, and the opportunity to retake as many times as neccasry, and even be coached through! I was apprentice trained in the sixties and early seventies for 5 years, and also had three years at technical college in order to get a City and Guilds national diploma in electrical engineering. NVQ? Not Very Qualified!!

 

[RWJ]

PAT TEST GUILD Now featuring on ebay

Only £15 to join FREE P&P lolololol

Guild of PAT Testers Membership - 1 Year | eBay UK

 

[draelectricals]

But lads come on, you get a free pen once memberships has been approved, approval time may vary due to waiting lispssss LOL.
I wonder if they have any form of insurance cover.
Banjo Insurance Co, run by Eddy Bananas.
underwritten by Tom --- & Pooh Bear, TP protection.

A free pen? Oh, why didn't you say, I'm disappointed now, if I'd known, that would have been worth it ;-)

 

[draelectricals]

PAT TEST GUILD Now featuring on ebay

Only £15 to join FREE P&P lolololol

Guild of PAT Testers Membership - 1 Year | eBay UK

if it's on ebay it must be good...

 

[Michelle2909]

As well as running a so Called Guild He also does 75p per test pat testing from the same Address.
which happens to be a very nice looking house in the country, see google maps link

http://maps.google.com/maps/

www.patguild.com 3 Hillside View, Rugby, Warwickshire

[FONT=&quot]www.plugcheck.co.uk[/FONT] PAT Testing Coventry - From 75p - PlugCheck 3 Hillside View, Rugby, Warwickshire CV23 0LA, United Kingdom +44 7738 826546


maybe he should do another guild as well for the happy slappy sticker brigade

The happy slappy sticker brigade Guild (we do pat testing faster than a speeding bullet). lol

 

[adslev]

Your laughing now gents, you won't be laughing when pat guild is featured on either the apprentice or dragons den! Fair play to the man if anyone is stupid enough to pay the fee

 

[draelectricals]

Thanks Michelle for a great post - well done finding this info, ever thought about being a detective?

I can't believe it - he is banging on about ethics in the industry then he does the exact thing that annoys us all - under cutting everyone by offering unrealistic prices that can't be achieved without cutting some serious corners.

Has anyone reviewed that site? It says it will beat any price, it has conditions (hidden charges) for repairs which is something the guild is very much against, in the Code of Practice of the guild it says "No hidden charges: When giving an initial quote to a customer all charges should be explained. If there are optional charges for repairs etc then the customer should be given the option before the repair is undertaken. If a minimum call out or cancelation fees apply these should be explained at the time of booking." then on the plug check site it says "Free* small repairs carried out to items as necessary, i.e re-wiring plugs, changing fuse, etc" with the * refering to: "*Up to a maximum of 10% repair rate" - to me this is a hidden charge, as I have no idea what it means how would a potential customer? So in my opinion he has broken the rules of the guild and thus should have his membership cancelled - am I wrong?

Another point, the site says for more information on pat testing click here, when you click it takes you to the pat testing info site - does this mean they have a link from the plug test site or is the pat testing info site owned by plug check too?

 

[draelectricals]

Your laughing now gents, you won't be laughing when pat guild is featured on either the apprentice or dragons den! Fair play to the man if anyone is stupid enough to pay the fee

I can hear Duncan Bannatyne now saying "I'm, out"

 

[Jimmy Boy]

Guys I really need to get back on here more this thread has had me in hysterics..in fact I think I even let out a little bit of wee at one time, send the guy one of your dogs 'Truffles' in a jiffy bag..test that for 75p if it passes I will join lmao.

Well done to you all for taking the scam apart

ATB Steve