Hairdryer in Bathroom

[buzzlightyear]

my hair is the envy of several local women

yes I can see .

 

[telectrix]

seems like we have a new member, supposedly nvq3 qualified, but disagrees with a few sensible posts. come on, norah., please explain.

 

[freddo]

Wire a single socket via a 13A isolation transformer.

 

[telectrix]

Wire a single socket via a 13A isolation transformer.

too sensible. go stand in the naughty corner,..

 

[Deuce]

I disagree with quite a few of the 'sensible' posts on this thread, as the fact of the matter is that across Europe and USA there are far more bathrooms with switches/sockets IN the bathroom than total number of all bathrooms in the UK. And it's not causing an issue.

So the moral argument for refusing to do the work despite it being technically allowable kinda falls down.

I don't understand why we're so uptight about the issue in this country. The overwhelming weight of evidence shows there is not a real life safety issue.

Also, how many people have a light switch just inside their front door that gets flipped with wet fingers if it's raining? Or for that matter the switch outside the bathroom as people leave!?

 

[Deuce]

On another note, the air hose dryers are indeed a perfect solution. The problem is they're bloody ugly things and most people won't want them in their home.

I'm not sure why no one seems to make more attractive versions.

 

[DPG]

Having slightly wet fingers from rain is very different to being dripping wet after stepping out of the bath in a steamy bathroom though.

Pull-cord switch for me.

 

[Deuce]

Having slightly wet fingers from rain is very different to being dripping wet after stepping out of the bath in a steamy bathroom though.

Pull-cord switch for me.

I disagree it's 'very' different. At the end of the day a fingertip only holds so much water, and it's either a droplet in the right place to run down the side of the switch onto the contacts, or it's not. The reality is that with several drops of water and a very determined effort, none of us would stand much chance of feeding it around the switch in such a way that the front of the switch becomes live.

As for steamy air... It's totally none conductive so not a factor in primary risk. The moisture can damage contacts and cause secondary problems but the presence of steamy air at the time won't increase the risk of a shock. Consider what has to happen for water particles to become airborne..

Note: we're talking about domestic voltage and steam. Lightning can flash across moist air and make some pretty decent displays.

 

[DPG]

The steam being non conductive may be technically correct. However it is continually condensing back into surface water. Hence steamy windows are actually very wet.

Not trying to cause an argument. Good discussion.

 

[telectrix]

think the discussion is getting a bit off track. things in bathrooms OTT. you have a bath/shower on a birthday or at xmas, meantime who cares? it' s only occasional times when there's a risk.

 

[DPG]

Yep every Xmas, whether I need one or not.

 

[Squid]

The steam being non conductive may be technically correct. However it is continually condensing back into surface water. Hence steamy windows are actually very wet.

Not trying to cause an argument. Good discussion.

I don't have an issue in my bathroom, it has a decent centrifugal fan, the external wall is insulated and the mirror is fitted with a delisted and the floor is heated, the main issue is the design of the bathroom as people are too tight to pay for a decent job.

 

[Squid]

Not for the faint hearted pedants......



Powered from a fused spur located in the airing cupboard.

 

[Deuce]

The steam being non conductive may be technically correct. However it is continually condensing back into surface water. Hence steamy windows are actually very wet.

Not trying to cause an argument. Good discussion.

Just don't hook up power to the window of a bathroom

Yea it condenses on surfaces and can pool, but it won't condense inside a fitting and create a continuous path of moisture from the terminals to the outside parts.

Obviously placement of fittings is a consideration as water does pool in certain places.

There is no reason I can see that a switch inside a bathroom is anymore dangerous than one just outside the door. Albeit it does mean that correct ventilation becomes all the more important.

 

[John Arnold]

Fit the socket out side the bathroom rcd protected definately, you have some profit.Inform your customer that they must not use any portable electrical appliance in the bathroom. Stick to the law strictly to protect yourself. I pray most of these answers do not come from qualified electricians(except humorous ones).
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