Has anyone cut these before

[westward10]

Strictly speaking all insulated ceiling roses and light switches etc... are not Class II/double insulated unless they are identified as such.

 

[Pete999]

The DB has been changed last year so the MECH Earth to conduit is no longer existent.

What class 2 pendants would be complaint with no earth?

I would think any class 2 fitting would be fine.

 

[davesparks]

Class 2 fittings won't solve the fact that the conduits aren't earthed. They need to be earthed whatever the type of fitting used.
Just do the job properly and don't try to dodge the regulations.

 

[westward10]

Most ceiling roses can be unscrewed by hand leaving access to live parts hence they are not Class II or double insulated, they are merely constructed from all insulated materials.

 

[Ian1981]

Deta ceiling roses have an inside cap covering the connections when the rose is unscrewed.
Held by 2 clips.
Not saying they are class 2 just that they offer a bit more protection.
Think the design is for painters to be able to unscrew the rose and paint around without the danger of access to live or possible live parts.I think Crabtree have roses that are screwed to the base so offer a better degree of safety.

 

[sparksburnout]

I'm bloody lost with this thread, why can't you just do as Lee said and use fittings with screw covers on, if you are that worried??

 

[westward10]

The problem here is the conduit is no longer earthed and could easily become live and is likely in some areas to be exposed. Plastic switches with nylon screws solve nothing.

 

[mache]

One thing is for sure the conduit won't be nickel

 

[sparksburnout]

How is it going to be exposed it is buried in the wall? If it's exposed anywhere else just Earth it, otherwise just do as Lee suggested. Life is too short to worry about this sort of thing.

 

[chris day]

Class 2 fittings won't solve the fact that the conduits aren't earthed. They need to be earthed whatever the type of fitting used.
Just do the job properly and don't try to dodge the regulations.

The chap is now paying to have an EICR done before so I can long lead test, check any accessible parts so on