Has Electrician made a mistake with height?

[LCV]

Hi,

As part of a full house renovation the house was completely rewired. I asked the Electrician to fit the plug sockets in the home office at a high level so that the printers sitting on the cabinets can easily be plugged into them. The plug sockets would be concealed by the printers.

I did not specify the height to the Electrician and neither did he ask me. He has finished doing the 2nd fix and I've now noticed that he has positioned the sockets to be the same height as the light switches which of course is far too high and looks really silly. The plug sockets are about 30cm higher than it needs to be.

What is your view on this?

Thanks.

 

[telectrix]

or higher, as the case may be.

 

[LCV]

Thanks for this image.

Could you CAD in desk height cabinets going across the wall with two printers sitting on top and two plug sockets located behind the printers. Is that clear about about where the sockets need to go?

Sorry I haven't given you the exact height for the sockets but just call me and I can tell you.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Thanks for this image.

Could you CAD in desk height cabinets going across the wall with two printers sitting on top and two plug sockets located behind the printers. Is that clear about about where the sockets need to go?

Sorry I haven't given you the exact height for the sockets but just call me and I can tell you.

Personally I think you should of been specific with the heights and could of even marked them on the wall but I do also agree that the electrician should of given you a call to ask if he wasn't sure or asked when you both had a walk through of the job at the start...I think the best way to sort it out would be have a chat with the sparks, get him back to move the sockets at a slightly reduced rate as its both your fault Imo.

 

[telectrix]

Personally I think you should of been specific with the heights and could of even marked them on the wall but I do also agree that the electrician should of given you a call to ask if he wasn't sure or asked when you both had a walk through of the job at the start...I think the best way to sort it out would be have a chat with the sparks, get him back to move the sockets at a slightly reduced rate as its both your fault Imo.

can i come and sit on your fence? :wazzzup:

 

[Leesparkykent]

can i come and sit on your fence? :wazzzup:

Lol....as long as you don't nick the scrap cable I've got stored up next to it.

 

[Tuttle]

Sorry, the general public do refer to them as plug sockets. I will call them socket outlets in any future postings about them from now on.

Plug sockets - it's what you plug your socket plugs into right?

Although I've noticed that screwfix sell plug sockets: MK 13A 2-Gang DP Switched Plug Socket White | Switches & Sockets | Screwfix.com :mad2:

 

[Diddy]

If you wanted the sockets in a specific place they should've been marked on the wall/clearly noted on the drawing. You can't expect tradesmen (or anybody) to be mind readers. Poor drawings are the bane of my life, and what's worse is when people watch you fit something then only later point out that wasn't where they wanted it.

You've clearly made a mistake so in my opinion the right thing to do is pay him to rectify.

Which is why I posted in quiet a harsh manner. I have been messed around by designers with terrible drawings and often unworkable "clever idea's" since I was 16 years old as a fresh face apprentice....The old saying we can send a rocket into space but you can't ever get a drawing correct...lol - And I am talking in the main about drawings issued by professionals who have "years" of experience - Unless it's a straight forward little job then it really is a good idea to spend the extra and get things like design and drawings ect done by a professional....At least if they make a mistake there is no ambiguity as to who pays and who is at fault. Honestly as nicely as I could possibly say it op just take this episode as a life learning curve...at the end of the day you "almost" pulled it off which is no mean feat....AND you have learned something. I always appreciate learning even if it costs me a few pounds.

 

[Phil Thompson]

I don't get this there are no standard heights argument you are using, there are standard heights for everything, as I stated already. 54" for high level, 42" for mid and 12" for low level, that's to bottom of the box from finished floor.

you have already stated you said high level when you wanted DESK level, and you have also stated that the sockets are about 12" too high.

therefore I emphasise again, you are the only one at fault and should admit it for once and for all.

Not only for giving the wrong info in the first place, but you failed to correct it at each and every stage of the installation.

You are simply choosing to take on board the info you want to suit your own agenda. Yet think if you say we are both at fault but I am choosing to take the view of the folks who didn't realise what you have done in the first place.

At at theend of the day, everyone makes mistakes, anyone that hasn't made a mistake, hadn't made anything.

Not it going to bother replying again, as you haven't once had the courtesy of even acknowledging the previous responses as they obviously don't suit your penny pinching agenda.

Apologies to anyone who thinks my post is harsh, but there's a right way and a wrong way to go about things, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who had the confidence to say so.

 

[Tuttle]

I don't get this there are no standard heights argument you are using, there are standard heights for everything, as I stated already. 54" for high level, 42" for mid and 12" for low level, that's to bottom of the box from finished floor.

you have already stated you said high level when you wanted DESK level, and you have also stated that the sockets are about 12" too high.

therefore I emphasise again, you are the only one at fault and should admit it for once and for all.

Not only for giving the wrong info in the first place, but you failed to correct it at each and every stage of the installation.

You are simply choosing to take on board the info you want to suit your own agenda. Yet think if you say we are both at fault but I am choosing to take the view of the folks who didn't realise what you have done in the first place.

At at theend of the day, everyone makes mistakes, anyone that hasn't made a mistake, hadn't made anything.

Not it going to bother replying again, as you haven't once had the courtesy of even acknowledging the previous responses as they obviously don't suit your penny pinching agenda.

Apologies to anyone who thinks my post is harsh, but there's a right way and a wrong way to go about things, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who had the confidence to say so.

Out of interest, where do the standard heights you quoted come from?

 

[Phil Thompson]

It's what I was told at college and by every electrician I worked under and alongside the past 20 years coming in May. And I spent most of my time as a house basher on new builds.

I also am standing here now in a government owned house (NIHE), and just measured the 3 heights here and they are all the same height.

so wired by a firm I don't know by lads I don't know, and it's how most houses, except disabled houses I've ever been in in NI are done.

 

[PEG]

Lol....as long as you don't nick the scrap cable I've got stored up next to it.

Oooh Kent,Beautiful garden of England....round our way,those bags of scrap cable wouldn't last long enough for a slug to hide beneath :shocked3:

 

[plugsandsparks]

I am only aware of two heights in the building regs for accessories, 450mm and 1200mm. The higher one is for switches, I guess that's why the electrician put it at that height, i.e. its the higher of the two levels. If there was a standard desk height, that might be helpful for electricians but they do vary by an inch or two, depends what the desk is for. I usually give the customer a black marker pen

 

[davesparks]

It's what I was told at college and by every electrician I worked under and alongside the past 20 years coming in May. And I spent most of my time as a house basher on new builds.

I also am standing here now in a government owned house (NIHE), and just measured the 3 heights here and they are all the same height.

so wired by a firm I don't know by lads I don't know, and it's how most houses, except disabled houses I've ever been in in NI are done.

Well for the twelve years I've been doing this it has been 450 and 1200 for new builds in the uk and a traditional height of 12" and 54" outside of new builds

 

[Dave OCD]

Yep 4' 6" to the centre of a light switch or --- height as I was told as an apprentice. :biggrin:
The 'third height' would be above kitchen worktops, 900mm & the worktop then a variable if you're trying to help the tiler. :biggrin:

 

[PEG]

Yep 4' 6" to the centre of a light switch or --- height as I was told as an apprentice. :biggrin:
The 'third height' would be above kitchen worktops, 900mm & the worktop then a variable if you're trying to help the tiler. :biggrin:

...This dropped me in it,when i fitted switches at Scaramangas' house...very embarrassing ...that dwarf was inconsolable :cool3: