Help with down light spots

[stevieboyracer]

Hello I am wanting some help in finding some down lights that will be suitable for a job i am doing. I need to fit some downlights in a PVC ceiling so obviously I don't want them getting too hot and melting the plastic. The customer says that led are too expensive. Also I need them to be suitable for zone 1 but the other issue I have is the ceiling will only be dropped just slightly over 4" so they need to be quite a shallow fitting and they need enough space to breath. Any ideas where I can get a suitable fitting. Thank you

 

[stevieboyracer]

Ive not got an attitude its just I don't like going around in circles I just want an answer

 

[ruston]

If he wont take your guidance there is nothing else you can do . 35w is usually ok in decent quality plastic, what more can you do , thousands of downlights are in plastic ceilings. F rated for normally combustible surfaces although some plastics are fire retardant. Check with the relevant manufacturers.

 

[ruston]

Ive not got an attitude its just I don't like going around in circles I just want an answer

Lol the site is not a design guide you know
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[Guitarist]

Ive not got an attitude its just I don't like going around in circles I just want an answer

I gave you one earlier...tell him he can't have downlighters if he's not going to take your advice and have LED units.

 

[stevieboyracer]

I don't think you understand. That is not a type of light fitting or shop or website where I can order suitable fittings is it. I will explain again for you. In the past I purchased some halogen spots which had heat protection so it was suitable to mount in PVC. They were fire rated too but quite a small fitting so it was suitable to mount in small lowered ceilings and also zone 1. Please if any body knows where i can purchase some can you let me know. Now if you can't be helpful and maybe give me a link or tell me a shop which supplies them don't bother wasting my time. It's not big and it's not clever coming out with all these silly comments

 

[DPG]

I suspect you may be putting people off with the tone of your replies. Just my opinion. Daz

 

[Brightspark2]

Give the guy a break...

As someone else has mentioned what about CFLs spots?...or speak to your wholesaler and see what they come up with, I've installed some fire rated tight space ones by ROBUS, look into them think they where 3.75 inches in old money...may of made that up though...

Sent from my Xperia S using next doors WIFI.

 

[Amp David]

Yes. Please can people just read the original question and try give me a helpful answer. LEDs are a no no and yes I know halogens get hot, thats why i want one that would be suitable like the ones i fit in the past that had a rubbery costing and yes i know it is notifiable. Just proper help please

No LEDs no lighty.

Never seen any with a rubbering coating either.

Only option is to try and find a fitting that is suitable to mount on a flammable surface and use CFL lamps. Then let your very awkward customer change them for halogens him/her self.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Your only other option (as stated above ) is CFL lights. These do not get so hot, but you should try them for an hour or two in some PVC to see.

I don't think anybody knows what type

the ones i fit in the past that had a rubbery costing

are. In any event you'll have to make sure they comply with Building Regs especially those regarding the passgae, or non-passage, of moisture.

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[Amp David]

Have you considered LEDs?

 

[telectrix]

he has but his customer won't have them. IMO, he's had the best advice available , but would rather insult us, so that's my last comment on the subject.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Have you considered LEDs?

Didn't you read the rest of the thread?

 

[Des 56]

He has made aright song and dance about the replies ,so in that spirit of friendliness



The customer insisted
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What the op should now do
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[telectrix]

and there's always light my fire.. the doors

 

[sedgy34]

you need to re educate your customer