Help with test and inspection.

[JiMMySnoW]

I have replaced a distribution board. Now in the process of testing circuits and found a 2.5 twin and earth on the cooker circuit.

Now this job will be getting inspected by the NICEIC. Here's the apparent problem:

the 2.5 t+e spur must be joined under the floor board, the client does not want me to rectify it just yet until the circumstance are better, does not want me ripping kitchen laminate flooring up. This is also a job i did for free for friend of a friend so that i have suitable jobs to be inspected.

So I will just write it up on my report and fail. However now I have the issue where I know the cooker circuit has a 2.5mm spur on a 40 amp breaker.

The client has an electrical cooker.

Do I leave 40 amp breaker in with note on test certificate ? What does one do in this situation when client don't want job done even for free. Surely cooker trip on a 20amp breaker.

many thanks in advance.


JS

 

[VoltzElectrical]

be interesting to see the 'free spark' website!

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

What if its over 3m from where its jointed to the 6mm?

No not retarded, just putting a case across without getting wound up or abusive for no reason?

 

[VoltzElectrical]

What if its over 3m from where its jointed to the 6mm?

No not retarded, just putting a case across without getting wound up or abusive for no reason?

MY understanding of this scenario, is a socket outlet spurred from a cooker circuit protected by a 40 amp MCB.

Solution, is change the double socket back box to a twin back box, on one half of which is a FUSED (13A) spur. This then feeds a single socket outlet next to it.

If you can't understand this, go clean toilets. I thought this was a forum for ELECTRICIANS!.

 

[Guitarist]

What we should really be asking here is the obvious question....Why, oh why didn't you just do a CU change on your own property?

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Indeed. Get used to NOTHING being textbook (unless you become one of these guys who call themselves electricians and just pull cables in on newbuilds everyday).

As you have fitted a new CU you must use the appropriate protective device for the circuit otherwise your work will not comply. As above I think I would disconnect the cooker on those grounds if you feel the load is too great for the circuit..what happens after you leave is the clients business...however I think you'll find if you explain what you are doing and why they will have you back to rectify pretty sharpish..!

I have, explained.

Thanks for the revelations. Wanted to get this NICEIC quicker, I am a new business. Didn't want to use the " £250" grant I have for handing out leaflets courtesy of Princes trust.

Have two estate agent that like my idea, said they would send my leaflets to all their landlords. Wanted to send the leaflets with a NICEIC badge. Was offering something along the lines of £5 a month all inclusive callout. £40 excess. That was the idea. Also got a £1080 grant of the government and another grant of £540 there abouts. So nah I don't think I am a mug.

What you give you get back. The people I have done work for are all hard workers and good people. So .

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I have, explained.

Thanks for the revelations. Wanted to get this NICEIC quicker, I am a new business. Didn't want to use the " £250" grant I have for handing out leaflets courtesy of Princes trust.

Have two estate agent that like my idea, said they would send my leaflets to all their landlords. Wanted to send the leaflets with a NICEIC badge. Was offering something along the lines of £5 a month all inclusive callout. £40 excess. That was the idea. Also got a £1080 grant of the government and another grant of £540 there abouts. So nah I don't think I am a mug.

What you give you get back. The people I have done work for are all hard workers and good people. So .

You must have mis-typed this.....£5 a month all in for a call out? Can you please expand and clarify your business plan and background so we can be of more help.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

You must have mis-typed this.....£5 a month all in for a call out? Can you please expand and clarify your business plan and background so we can be of more help.

£40 excess. The idea would be in the beginning it would be hard. But most of the time the landlord would be £5 a month, like an insurence. The landlord then knows any call out is not going to be no more £40. This is fault scenario.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

What we should really be asking here is the obvious question....Why, oh why didn't you just do a CU change on your own property?

:/ sore spot. I am now in rented accommodation. I did have a mortgage, bankruptcy.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

you are foreign aren't you? Where are you from?

 

[VoltzElectrical]

£40 excess. The idea would be in the beginning it would be hard. But most of the time the landlord would be £5 a month, like an insurence. The landlord then knows any call out is not going to be no more £40. This is fault scenario.

Impossible to quote £40 max for fault finding. Sorry, but no wonder you are bankrupt with business plans like this. A bit like 'I WILL MOT your piece of she-ite car for £40, no matter what is wrong with it, I will put it right'.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

you are foreign aren't you? Where are you from?

Curious fellow, I am from my mothers belly. I am English, not just foreigners know how to pull strings if that is where you are barking.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Impossible to quote £40 max for fault finding. Sorry, but no wonder you are bankrupt with business plans like this. A bit like 'I WILL MOT your piece of she-ite car for £40, no matter what is wrong with it, I will put it right'.

No I went bankrupt when I was employed and was a good thing, because it woke me up. My business plan would work.

How many call outs do you think landlords have each year for electrics? Probably would have to do it over 5 years.

Say I manage to get 20 clients in the beginning out the prospective 300 or so I have to send leaflets to. Then they would all be paying £5 a month.

How many call outs would there be from them in a year?

But you are right it will not work, because I am not focused enough to follow through with the plan. I do not have the passion. But please the plan would work, I mean one could test the waters with more but £5 is good.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I, too, am from my mother's belly, enough to know that you are not from these shores. It matters not, I was just trying to get a measure of you and your electrical/ experience/ educational background.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

If you're not of Pakistani origin, I will eat my feet. That's not a problem! I just like to know/ guess. I will help ANYBODY regardless of background but honesty must prevail, and be the basis of any trust.

 

[Guitarist]

Jimmy, you've messed up on this one, and with the greatest respect to you (as I'm sure you're a nice guy), you sound somewhat naive. I wish you all the best in your care work