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as its "Camping pods" im assuming they may not be permenant Hve you thought about a genny supply a bit away from pods ( even "Silent" gennys can make a noise) this may give you a better idea of usage and might work out easier than 37K doon the drain if it doesnt work out as well
 
I think it would be safe to apply diversity unless you specifically set out to synchronise all the campers:
3... 2... 1... Start those kettles! Pour, 2, 3, stir, 2, 3, sip, 2, 3...
Likewise the idea of the kettles boiling 24/7 is somewhat unrealistic - for that to have any kind of purpose apart from making a point the kettles would need 'time off' while they're filled.

If 'synchronised kettle boiling' is what you really want you might have to bite the bullet and dig deep.
 
Thanks for all the replies !!

As you might guess, things have changed slightly.

We're now looking to supply each Pod with a small camping stove and kettle and are doing away with the electric alltogether.

That just leaves me with power to the office for an ice cream machine (2.9KW dedicated supply), coffee machine (4KW dedicated supply), ice maker, a couple of fridges, couple of freezers, till and lights. EDIT add in a hot water heater too.

However, the power company are still quoting me for a 3-phase 45KVA supply at £12,000.

Do you guys think I will get away with a single phase 100A supply and what (if any) is the likely cost saving - from your experiences - in doing so?

Thanks
Paul
 
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Thanks for all the replies !!

As you might guess, things have changed slightly.

We're now looking to supply each Pod with a small camping stove and kettle and are doing away with the electric alltogether.No lights or sockets for fridges ?

That just leaves me with power to the office for an ice cream machine (2.9KW dedicated supply), coffee machine (4KW dedicated supply), ice maker, a couple of fridges, couple of freezers, till and lights. EDIT add in a hot water heater too. The 2 machines you highlighted are 7kw and with the rest of the load let's call it 15kw, and that is without diversity and than comes to 65amps so yes I would say 100amp single phase supply is ok

However, the power company are still quoting me for a 3-phase 45KVA supply at £12,000.

Do you guys think I will get away with a single phase 100A supply Yes and what (if any) is the likely cost saving - from your experiences - in doing so?

Thanks
Paul

Have you informed the DNO that you will just need an 100amp sinlge phase supply as you have now re calculated your loading.
 
No lights or sockets for fridges ?

No, we will offer a camping light (small gas bottle) and cooler box with free ice blocks. TBH it will probably add to the traditional camping "feel". Maybe even charge a premium. LOL

The 2 machines you highlighted are 7kw and with the rest of the load let's call it 15kw, and that is without diversity and than comes to 65amps so yes I would say 100amp single phase supply is ok

Perhaps I should just ask for an 80A supply or is 100A a std supply anyway. ie would 80A be cheaper than 100A?

Have you informed the DNO that you will just need an 100amp sinlge phase supply as you have now re calculated your loading.

No I only just got the £12k quote on Thursday and thought it best to double-check what I needed before contacting them.

Paul
 
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nothing at all - the nearest supply is 100m away.

WPD have quoted me £2k for non-contestable works and £8.2k for contestable - all plus vat of course.

Im struggling to see just where the non-contestable ends and contestable begins as their plans arent that clear - I will be emailing them later to find out (Im guessing that £8.2k contestable could come down a bit if done by my own contractor).

EDIT one other thing to consider is the cost of cabling - for instance, if I have to run 100m of cable, how much of a difference is there to buy the cable for 3-phase 45KVA compared to single phase 100A?

paul
 
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I would imagine as it is a new supply and light commercial they would supply you 100amp. Personally I would go down the 3 phase supply route as you never know what the future holds. It's a long way in 4 yrs time to thing I wished I had got that 3 phase supply as I now want to do this or do that.

Also in worse case scenario you need to sell your concern, you having a 3 phase supply will be very attractive for future expansion.
 
Personally, ...i think it will be a ''Big'' mistake to do away with the electric light in these pods, in favour of a gas camping light. I for one wouldn't relish the idea of fumbling around in the dark trying to find and then light a gas lamp!!!

If you went for the single phase 100A supply, then you could also supply these pods with an electric lighting source, from this supply....


Any chance of some photo's of the ''Pods'' as i'm not really sure what were talking about here??
 

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