Help with Wago instead of ceiling rose method

[mayfair]

Yes rocket science puting up Chandeliers. Still idiiots about i see.

Sorry mate difficult to describe the step by step procedure and methods used to install a chandelier safely. You need to do it under supervision in my opinion.

 

[micknew]

Yes rocket science puting up Chandeliers. Still idiiots about i see.

As your post proves Sir.

 

[telectrix]

Well done Tel I return every now and again to see how things are going and nothing changes much , But see people like you are still prepared to help rather than have a go at people wanting advice.....Hope you and the Mrs are well keep it up.

mayfair, thought you'd emigrated or summat. me & mrs doing fine. be even better with a bit of work coming in. it's pants at the mo.

 

[nickblake]

what i use in the wago line especiall for light fitting like you have is the push in one side and the clamp the other they are great for this job

 

[dgrs]

Thanks nickblake, I was going to use the lever type as these are the ones I've 'played around' with. I will have a look at the other wago products. I think they're totally fantastic..

Thanks everyone for the help.

 

[telectrix]

the push in ones are OK for solid cable. lever type generally used if flex is involved. if you are connecting flex to the fitting, use the lever ones.

 

[nickblake]

i always use push fits for the loops and the series 224 for the flexible leads supplied with the light fitting

 

[Brad]

Unfortunately you can't buy experience and part p doesn't help you get that. If you want to do this get qualified IMO if in doubt get a spark in who can do it and job done.

 

[robsparky1975]

No, the course just wired in ceiling roses. We covered 2 way switching with an intermediate switch. The job I'm asking about is far simpler in terms of wiring but I posted a practical question...

My point of asking a question on here is I am lacking practical experience and thought people could help. I am experienced enough (just with DIY) to know that few things, unless you install the whole thing yourself from scratch, fit an exact scenario. I was really hoping that my question wouldn't just result in criticism of the course of did or of the lack of my own practical experience which I made very clear from the outset...

Oh well.

I think a lot of the criticism is not aimed at yourself but the providers of these short courses,who take way too much money off people(im not sure how much you had to pay),what they should be doing is running through real world scenarios just like what you are asking,and at least you knew the sort of thing that was required,so your on the right path,and with working alongside qualified and experienced electricians you gain get the hands on skills

 

[Hiddo]

I'll tell you what I do if it helps. I fix the bracket to the ceiling ensuring it is secure and then I use a cable tie to hold the fitting to the bracket temporarily whilst I terminate the cables into the wago's etc. remove the cable tie and secure the fitting to the bracket. It works for me every time. Good luck

 

[telectrix]

good tip. use that myself on occasion. if no tiesto hand, a bit of cable stripped from the t/e does the trick.

 

[jase]

Was not even things as simple as this covered in you DI course??
Hmmmmmmmm

I went to college for 2 evenings a week for 3 years, we did practical on tuesdays and theory on thursdays, in all those 3 years we never even looked at a red rawl plug let alone drilled a 5.5mm hole into a bit of masonary and used red rawl plugs with an 1/2" 8 and mounted anything onto a wall, luckily for me i was working fulltime as a trainee sparks, but i felt sorry for the guys who worked in office environments and had absolutley no experience of even handling a drill driver let alone using one, they were great at the theory but when they were in the workshop some of them couldnt even use a hammer!! college dont teach you everything

 

[mickys86]

I'll tell you what I do if it helps. I fix the bracket to the ceiling ensuring it is secure and then I use a cable tie to hold the fitting to the bracket temporarily whilst I terminate the cables into the wago's etc. remove the cable tie and secure the fitting to the bracket. It works for me every time. Good luck

And there was me, worried that I hadn't learnt anything today. Ten minutes to go and I read this. Thanks for the tip!! Unbelievably simple

 

[mickys86]

I went to college for 2 evenings a week for 3 years, we did practical on tuesdays and theory on thursdays, in all those 3 years we never even looked at a red rawl plug let alone drilled a 5.5mm hole into a bit of masonary and used red rawl plugs with an 1/2" 8 and mounted anything onto a wall, luckily for me i was working fulltime as a trainee sparks, but i felt sorry for the guys who worked in office environments and had absolutley no experience of even handling a drill driver let alone using one, they were great at the theory but when they were in the workshop some of them couldnt even use a hammer!! college dont teach you everything

I always said I learnt more on site than I did in the workshop bit of a no brainer really

 

[Alana Fox]

Hi dgrs

Alana here from OLCI Construction Training.

I can see that you have a few questions about Part P. I would like to clarify this for you and any other questions that you may have.

Please give us a call on 0800 316 8100. Alternatively you can email me on [email protected] with a phone number and a suitable time to call you back.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes,

Alana Fox