Hmmm, seems high!

[D Skelton]

First time I've had to do this but quoting for a small job for an elderly couple up the road. I was called up there a few days ago when half of their front garden pathway/spike lights stopped working. Traced the fault to a cut length of flex that was buried in the ground (bad I know). The circuit was shot to bits with Wiskas all over the place filled with all kinds of muck, sludge and water. They asked me to sort it out and do a proper job hence my post.

I was toying with the idea of going down the flex and SELV route but with the lady and her 50 hours per week gardening habit and the fact that she has twice gone through cables hidden in bushes with spades/shears, I just feel that SWA is the better option by a long way.

The job:

Install five mains IP65 GU10 spike lights with high power LED GU10 lamps down front garden pathway (pathway about 12-13 meters long). Cable will be SWA (2 core x 1.5mm) and will be terminated in 5 x Wiska boxes mounted on short treated timber fence posts and secured into the ground on steel bolt post harnesses (75mm x 75mm fence posts). Wiska boxes will be filled with magic gel. SWA will not be buried. At supply side I will be replacing the current SFCU protecting the circuit with an RCD SFCU. A Steinel 'eco night' photo cell will be installed to control the lights.

A seemingly small and simple job but the price I'm coming out at 'all in' seems rather high for what it is. I'm not usually into pricing small jobs like this and haven't done so for a few years, maybe I'm out of practice.

What would you guys be looking at charging roughly (including all materials, markup, labour etc) not including any VAT? I'm not looking for a price breakdown or a debate/squabble on regional labour rates, just a rough price 'all in' if possible

My location is Brighton (London by the sea).

Feel free to PM me prices if you don't want to disclose on an open forum

 

[D Skelton]

I can move this to the Arms if you like.

No need buddy, just thought that a PM would be an option for anyone not comfortable disclosing their pricing in public

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

With Wiskas I rip out the terminals and use Wagos anyway.

galv T boxes though there is no messing about with the banjos been linked.

 

[GMES]

I would be inclined to charge approx. £5000.00 + vat if they are elderly, to make up for all the times I've been cut up by the blind buggers on a busy road, or got stuck behind them in a queue while they count all their coppers at the check out, or been nearly crippled by their pesky shopping trolley's in the supermarket, need I go on.

 

[Badged01]

I would be inclined to charge approx. £5000.00 + vat ...

Leave off talk of wanting VAT too, you would confuse them! They'd probably think you were talking about a whiskey they used to drink ....

 

[Guitarist]

I'd have said £750-£800 personally. Priced a few of these myself, and the customer always goes pale, then decides that those "new solar lights" might be a good idea at £5 a pop.

 

[D Skelton]

galv T boxes though there is no messing about with the banjos been linked.

Don't need banjos on Wiskas, they sell the earth nut facility that just slots in with an integrated fly lead. No galv box comes with that which I might add I would still banjo/pirahna and fly lead as I cannot determine the copper equivalent csa of the steel galv box in order to ensure a suitably sized CPC.

No offense but I simply wouldn't entertain using a galv box outside unless it was IP rated accordingly.

Appreciate your input though

 

[netblindpaul]

£500 + mtls @ +30% mark up on materials from cost, (+VAT, as we are reg'd).
Sorry, can't be bothered to work out a materials list & price it up.
Not worth it for less, as at the end of the day you have to give a warrant on labour & materials.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

wiska box n compound....much more secure...

 

[Guest55]

i couldnt price a job if my life depended on it ! lol.
always been rubbish at estimating.

a man needs to know his limits ;-)

 

[Guest55]

I cannot determine the copper equivalent csa of the steel galv box in order to ensure a suitably sized CPC.

you could by comparing it to the nearest sized trunking equivolent , a few csa sums later and away you go.

i can assure you its massive
;-)

 

[telectrix]

i think spinks meant galv. conduit boxes. plenty meat in them for cpc.

 

[Guest55]

i think spinks meant galv. conduit boxes. plenty meat in them for cpc.

ah , got ya.
in which case , no probs at all !
if its good enough for a shared cpc steel conduit system then...........

 

[telectrix]

think it was him saying "t boxes" that gave it away.

 

[D Skelton]

Yes, I had thought of them, the problem is linking the cpc within as the light fittings aren't class II. Fine if it was just SWA to SWA but not when there's three core flex to join as well.

 

[Guitarist]

I assumed he meant galv conduit trouser boxes.