House Rewiring - Telephone Line

[Max786]

Hi All,
I need some advice please. I am getting the whole house rewired/plastered and at the same time, i would like to put in a telephone cable in certain room in the house. I am bit confused on what i should buy and install. I reviewed forums and they seem a bit old, so could be installing something not required or legacy.
I have a master socket downstairs in the landing and i had legacy sockets upstairs in my daughters bedroom - a cable leading from the master socket to the socket upstairs. This was where we had the family PC/router and house telephone. I want to modify the location of these devices to as follows:
Keep the master socket in the landing downstairs and also keep the router upstairs in the kids bedroom , but:
1) Have a telephone socket for the family phone in the master bedroom and kitchen
2) Do i need to lay a telephone socket in the kids bedroom, along with a telephone line or will the new house electric wiring suffice, with wireless plugs. - wiring will be hidden
3) I am bit confused with 4-core or 8-core telephone cable , what is the difference -
Nexans 4-Core Telephone Cable 50m White - https://www.screwfix.com/p/nexans-4-core-telephone-cable-50m-white/190fk
Nexans 8-Core Telephone Cable 50m White - https://www.screwfix.com/p/nexans-8-core-telephone-cable-50m-white/396fk
4) Is there any recommendation on what telephone socket i should go for, i want to make it future proof also, especially with more and more devices becoming wireless now
5) Is there also any recommendation for network devices for WIFI around the whole house.

As you can see i am bit confused and out of touch with what is available and possible these days on the market. So any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Max786]

Cat6 not worth the extra aggro with cables, sockets, patch leads and the like. In a house as mentioned you will get 1Gb/s easy, i only use 6 where i am using copper uplinks at 10G/s or i have long distances with POE. TBH if you are going above 1Gb/s its actually better and easier to use fibre.

So just to clarify. Keep it simple and clean and go for one wifi extender and keep the router in the landing of the house, close to the master socket. Ignore the Cat 5 ethernet and just a get a good new faster router.. e.g View: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073G222VP/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=&linkCode=w00&linkId=&creativeASIN=B073G222VP

 

[plugsandsparks]

Almost, you need to run a cat5 between the router and the wifi access point. Dont try and use repeaters, they are useless. I have completed a house recently with 100Mb/s symmetric internet connection to BT. I have flooded the house with those Ubiquiti Wifi access points, i have used 8 X Dual band antennas. Its a big house, lol - Anyway, i get almost 95% throughput of the max speed of the internet connection and thats after going through some switches, firewall and 2 X routers. The switches are interconnected with Cat6 running at 10Gb/s.
Trust me when i say as the signal drops, the speed falls off a cliff... lol
In simply terms run a Cat5 cable from the central point of the house in the loft so it can poke through the ceiling of whatever room / landing area that is central. Run the cable back to the router. You can terminate the cable onto a RJ45 outlet, its a bigger version of a telephone point. Then plug a short patch lead from the outlet to any spare switch port at the back of the router (they typically have 4 as a minimum)
Then buy your dual band Ubiquiti access point (antennae) make off the Cat5 onto a RJ45 plug or if this is too hard, terminate the cat5 onto a RJ45 faceplate in the loft and then run a cat5 patch lead from the back of the access point to the faceplate in the loft. The access points run Power over ethernet so use the supplied power supply and plug it into socket in the loft. Alternatively buy a POE router and you can power the access point directly from the router.
hope this helps

 

[Max786]

Almost, you need to run a cat5 between the router and the wifi access point. Dont try and use repeaters, they are useless. I have completed a house recently with 100Mb/s symmetric internet connection to BT. I have flooded the house with those Ubiquiti Wifi access points, i have used 8 X Dual band antennas. Its a big house, lol - Anyway, i get almost 95% throughput of the max speed of the internet connection and thats after going through some switches, firewall and 2 X routers. The switches are interconnected with Cat6 running at 10Gb/s.
Trust me when i say as the signal drops, the speed falls off a cliff... lol
In simply terms run a Cat5 cable from the central point of the house in the loft so it can poke through the ceiling of whatever room / landing area that is central. Run the cable back to the router. You can terminate the cable onto a RJ45 outlet, its a bigger version of a telephone point. Then plug a short patch lead from the outlet to any spare switch port at the back of the router (they typically have 4 as a minimum)
Then buy your dual band Ubiquiti access point (antennae) make off the Cat5 onto a RJ45 plug or if this is too hard, terminate the cat5 onto a RJ45 faceplate in the loft and then run a cat5 patch lead from the back of the access point to the faceplate in the loft. The access points run Power over ethernet so use the supplied power supply and plug it into socket in the loft. Alternatively buy a POE router and you can power the access point directly from the router.
hope this helps

Yes... alot of information.. I wish my house was a mansion, but only 5 bedroom (;->).

 

[plugsandsparks]

oh forgot, you can put the power supply for the access point where the router is, probably more likely to find a socket there..