HOUSE upstairs lights

[thelondonway]

domestic house call out today- upstairs lights not working , loop in system looks like bathroom lights is first on circuit , got power leaving breaker but no power anywhere upstairs ,no power at any light or switch.

although the stupid volt pen was flashing on initial contact of some of the circuit clarified with fluke it had no power .

after clarifying no power at any accessories i went into loft to examine routes but loft is mayhem advised for loft clear out before proceeding with fault find

anyone any ideas

breaker not tripping , break in cable somewhere

 

[decolad69]

No,jeeeez, this is an ELECTRICIANS FORUM you would have crucified a DIY'R for this, BASIC fault finding mate Basic :wub:

 

[thelondonway]

No,jeeeez, this is an ELECTRICIANS FORUM you would have crucified a DIY'R for this, BASIC fault finding mate Basic :wub:

round in circles m8, i didnt say i gave up and didnt know what to do next , clearly explained in op what i had done and that access prevented further investigation
point of post was for some ideas solely for the fun of it
and you guys all jump at the chance to crucify anyone

 

[onions1066]

I skipped page 2 as boring, but I go to a lot of faults of all shapes and sizes in all different installations, it's very rare you just get a leg go "down" it's normally a loose connection or something someone has done, if they haven't done anything I'd be checking connections before ripping loft to bits. I get your post wasn't a cry for help as such and I think people have jumped on you a tad unfairly here so I think it's time to quit this one and you can tell everyone what you found tomorrow and give them the V sign if you was right. :hurray:

 

[chopper]

make sure the bathroom is the first light, confirm this by testing all the 3 cores, and if nothing there try each fitting testing continuity,
if no reading at all this will confirm 1, 2 or all 3 cores are broke to first light.
then u could dissconnect the lne out of the db and wire a temp link to first light , put power on they then should all work. then carry out all relevent tests after repair

 

[thelondonway]

I skipped page 2 as boring, but I go to a lot of faults of all shapes and sizes in all different installations, it's very rare you just get a leg go "down" it's normally a loose connection or something someone has done, if they haven't done anything I'd be checking connections before ripping loft to bits. I get your post wasn't a cry for help as such and I think people have jumped on you a tad unfairly here so I think it's time to quit this one and you can tell everyone what you found tomorrow and give them the V sign if you was right. :hurray:

cheers onions :hurray: glad someones not been on the fighting juice ,
will clarify there are no hidden joints anywhere in loft and check all connections , really dont think the L will be down will be a loose connection from where it leaves board upto loft

 

[bigbaddave]

ORIGINAL POST---------------domestic house call out today- upstairs lights not working , loop in system looks like bathroom lights is first on circuit , got power leaving breaker but no power anywhere upstairs ,no power at any light or switch.
although the stupid volt pen was flashing on initial contact of some of the circuit clarified with fluke it had no power .
after clarifying no power at any accessories i went into loft to examine routes but loft is mayhem advised for loft clear out before proceeding with fault find anyone any ideas ,breaker not tripping , break in cable somewhere,

NOTICE I ASKED ANYONE ANY IDEAS , THIS WAS MEARLY A BRAIN WORKING EXERCISE NOT HELP/SOS SPARK WITH VOLT PEN CANT FAULT FIND

jeeeez

Thats fair enough. Thats what this forum is all about, Pretty basic testing would narrow down and highlight the fault due to continuity. Either being a damaged, Loose cable or maybe a fuse spur feeding the bathroom lights and so on..

However even after getting getting a number of responses from members you still persist like a dog with a bone.. Only testing can help in this case. After which these results will highlight if there is a break in continuity.

Take advice on in future.. But most importantly post the fault tommorrow once you have had time to test with the appropriately test gear

all the best and welcome to the forum bud

 

[thelondonway]

Thats fair enough. Thats what this forum is all about, Pretty basic testing would narrow down and highlight the fault due to continuity. Either being a damaged, Loose cable or maybe a fuse spur feeding the bathroom lights and so on..

However even after getting getting a number of responses from members you still persist like a dog with a bone.. Only testing can help in this case. After which these results will highlight if there is a break in continuity.

Take advice on in future..

advice given is what i would persist on doing anyway , was not ignoring it , if i had access to loft area i would have as it would make it alot easier to suss out the cable routes

 

[onions1066]

cheers onions :hurray: glad someones not been on the fighting juice ,
will clarify there are no hidden joints anywhere in loft and check all connections , really dont think the L will be down will be a loose connection from where it leaves board upto loft

First thing I'd check is they haven't taken the feed to the landing switch on the way upstairs and its come loose in there, after that its just a process of elimination

 

[thelondonway]

First thing I'd check is they haven't taken the feed to the landing switch on the way upstairs and its come loose in there, after that its just a process of elimination

yeah i started with top of stair light(switch) ,there i realised loop in , dont worry guys im sure my fluke T51000 and megger mft 1730 oh and volt pen will find the problem

 

[decolad69]

Are you going to help them?

 

[thelondonway]

Are you going to help them?

no i dare not go near them i clearly dont have the knowledge to even take them out the wrapper

 

[thelondonway]

>999 does this mean try another 999 times ?

 

[decolad69]

Please let us know how they get on

 

[thelondonway]

no problem , if they need any onsite snarky comments to help the case ill give yous all a shout (barr a few )

 

[amlu]

get/make a wander lead if you dont have one, useful for tracing faults