House with concrete floors

[Leesparkykent]

The house may not have battened ceilings or floors but it’s the only way you’ll do this without surface trunking. It’s the customer’s choice, do they want the house to look good after the work or not?
Concrete ceilings are a structural nightmare so don’t even think of chasing in to them. There was a good thread on this subject a while ago, I can’t remember the outcome. I do remember the guy wanted to cut in to the ceiling with a Stihl saw.

Really, what a plonker lol

 

[Leesparkykent]

Look at MF ceilings, hilti concrete nail gun to put the track, etc up. The rest is put together with tek screws all cut with tin snips/gilbows. Really quick and cheap

 

[Darkwood]

like darkwood says, its easy enough to do.

core drill/sds drillbit from upstairs down tight against the wall (so its covered by plasterboard and then skirting)

then its just the same as any job, (use a grinder/wall chaser or you will be cursing trying to chase the conctete)

I miss the days of smashed knuckles and a rawl-drill when the site had no power, everything by hand and yes you built your arm muscles up pretty quick in them days

 

[shanky887614]

I miss the days of smashed knuckles and a rawl-drill when the site had no power, everything by hand and yes you built your arm muscles up pretty quick in them days

i have never seen a rawl-drill, all battery nowadays or genny if power goes off.

to be fair in conservatories i stick to hammer and chisel on the dwarf walls and might get the grinder out if they have supplied one of those $hit lounge plates

 

[ruston]

The house may not have battened ceilings or floors but it’s the only way you’ll do this without surface trunking. It’s the customer’s choice, do they want the house to look good after the work or not?
Concrete ceilings are a structural nightmare so don’t even think of chasing in to them. There was a good thread on this subject a while ago, I can’t remember the outcome. I do remember the guy wanted to cut in to the ceiling with a Stihl saw.

Stihl lol , Doesn't bear thinking about does it.

Boarding it out will probably work out economically if they insulate the building at the same time. As you and others have said it is the only sensible way to do it

 

[Chrishands]

Look at MF ceilings, hilti concrete nail gun to put the track, etc up. The rest is put together with tek screws all cut with tin snips/gilbows. Really quick and cheap

i want to put Downlighters in kitchen eventually and the mf ceeling looks really good, would make this possible. how much is this and can you get it from general wholesalers?

 

[Leesparkykent]

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[Leesparkykent]

i want to put Downlighters in kitchen eventually and the mf ceeling looks really good, would make this possible. how much is this and can you get it from general wholesalers?

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This website will give you a rough idea on price.

 

[Knobhead]

I miss the days of smashed knuckles and a rawl-drill when the site had no power, everything by hand and yes you built your arm muscles up pretty quick in them days

I got in to trouble over a rawl drill. As apprentices two of us were told to replace the lighting in the intake substation. 20MW passing through it and not a single socket. All the fittings and conduit to run and all we had was the dreaded rawl drill.

Once the foreman was out of the way I connected a 110V drill in to the metering transformer and off we went.
What I didn’t know was every time the drill started the works metered load went down. The NWEB used summation metering and noticed one of the three feeders loading jumping up and down.

As the foreman put it, 9/10 for ingenuity, 10/10 for stupidity.

The company had to stump up for an auxiliary 5KVA 250V supply for the substation.
We were all glad of that during the miners strike, the shift electricians were based in the intake controlling the power distribution throughout the works. The place used to be like an icebox. Now we could have a kettle and a couple of oil filled radiators. (And the television, and, and, and)

 

[D Skelton]

I've only had to batten out ceilings a hand full of times but in each case we just used bog standard roofing batten (timber). Cheap as chips from TP. I'd imagine it would be cheaper than MF lengths. Someone I'm sure will be along to correct me though lol.

 

[Knobhead]

The roofing battens are fire proofed and a preservative impregnation.

 

[trev]

If it has to be on show then the only way to do it is in pyro. Nice shiny pyro, it'll look great. Bugger the expense

 

[Knobhead]

Why is a trainee taking on a job like this?

 

[Engineer54]

So how has the existing lighting, sockets, cooker, etc, circuits been installed?? It's probably an all conduit installation, so the only problem would be any additional lighting and socket outlets that's required....

 

[Deleted member 72666]

Why is a trainee taking on a job like this?

My guess is that it's his house (after reading post 21).