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I was going to call this thread spot the mistake but that would take up too much time, should be spot the correct bits

This is a certificate from a domestic job I went to just before the holidays the Electrician involved had done numerous things extremely badly mainly poor workmanship while adding to existing circuits and here's a brief list

10mm main earth on TNC/S with 25mm tails 100A incomer

No cpc on lighting circuit throughout but he'd fitted a metal light fitting in kitchen

No Rcd protection on circuits in the bathroom or kitchen

Used the cpc in a twin and earth to use as a three core strapper for the two way switching in the kitchen

New consumer unit was a mess of sphagetti, holes at the bottom where you could easily touch the busbar(I'll post pictures if possible later)

Connected the bathroom lights into existing double insulated single lighting circuit via separate Jb's which then had twin with cores cut off ie line to one jb neutral to the other this was again a mess of cable just left tangled

The shaver skt is jb'd to the shower circuit 6.0mm although he had put it on a 10A Mcb (I know you could argue this one but I'd seen enough of his work and as these rooms were gutted theres no excuse not to do it properly)

In the Kitchen (small kitchen approx 3 x 3.5m)

3 skts via 2.5mm t&e connected to the old cooker circuit 6.0mm on a 32A Mcb

There were 2 Skts/ 1 Fcu on a radial 2.5mm on 32A Mcb

1 radial circuit comprising of 2 x 2.5mm t&e feeding two skts again on a 32A Mcb
this meant that there were 4 circuits feeding skts within the kitchen, which I think is bad as customer turns the mcb marked up sockets off at the consumer unit thinks they've isolated it and gets a shock as only the one socket in the kitchen is fed from this circuit

Loose connections on everything he'd touched

A complete lack of correct labeling and the certificate is baffling I couldn't believe someone would be so stupid to actually sign it, its no wonder he refused to revisit the job which is about 300 metres from his own door step

He's not registered with a scheme and the LABC were not notified this is someone who works in a family Business mainly commercial works ie schools and supermarkets I hope he's on this forum and is suitably embarrassed!
 
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Yes apologies for the pdfs

I had a good laugh at the rated residual current (device) 0.11 mA especially as none of what he'd done was on an Rcd

I phoned the LABC to enquire hypothetically about what could be done and was told they couldn't do anything it would have to be Trading standards , so I asked them why I was with a scheme as Part P / building regs was obviously not being enforced by their department as I understood it should be, and they said "yes I see what you mean" ???
 
I noticed the 0.11 mA RCD lol. Theirs literally too many faults, im gonna have to re-read - comedy value 10/10. Bravo.

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right, SINTRA if you're reading this...ive not coped, hes literally posted that at the same time as me this time!! lol damn slow typing.
 
One thing he might have got right though. Presence of undervoltage protective devices although with this idiot you would never know. Installation probably has an auto changeover gen set. :)
 
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apologies for these images
How not to do a JB , Consumer unit tails made it difficult to removeor refit cover
3rd/4th pic is the double insulated singles he'd tapped off for lights with a big nick in one core
 
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Just how i imagined.

Was gonna say, think id strugle to get the CU lid on - ridiculous. Seriouslly, on 4th pick with the nick...apart from copper been shown at every termination, it doesn't take 5seconds to put a bit of brown sleeving over a nick. Pathetic workmanship, he has literally no-idea.
 
In my eyes that excuse for certification is fradulent and deceptive! And the workmanship (or lack of it!) looks like it has been done by Stevie Wonder. Truely shocking!


I hope the home owner is going to take this clown to the nearest court house.
 
Now With the new watered down part P amendments due out in April, allowing these clowns to sign off others DIY work, it makes you a little worried where this is al headed

Back to where it was before pre-2005, less ÂŁ500 per year each, by the look of it!!!
 
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This is truely awful

At the VERY LEAST (and as you have his name and address) you should post a copy of the cert through his door along with a written link to this page.

Obviously no mention of a scheme either!

Is he from the UK?

Txsser.
 
OP said he wasn’t in a scheme, if he had been he would have known better.

Would he? You dont need to be in a scheme, just have the correct quals to sign off work.

This install must be what they're teaching on the Electrical Trainee course :laugh:

As murdoch said, link him to this page haha. Everyone has a right to answer themselves, would love to hear what theyve got to say.
 

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