How old is too old to train?

[Dustydazzler]

Suppose you could just do EICR or just be a tester easier on the body DD lol

EICRs are boring Imo and I can't compete with the £60 drive by lads in my area

 

[7029 dave]

EICRs are boring Imo and I can't compete with the £60 drive by lads in my area

I get that

 

[swaRRR]

Also, I would need to get some employment as an electricians mate to gain at least 2 years experience and gain Napit CP registration.

What do you mean? You need more than just 2 years experience to register on a scheme now (rules changed Sept 2021 i believe).

I would be willing to work for less than minimum wage (which is legal as long as I confirm this in writing to any employer), I would be willing to work for free for a year as worst case scenario.

Don't ever do this. It just drives down wages for everyone else.

 

[Petej999]

Please be as honest as you can all, I'm looking for real honest views before I waste thousands of pounds and my few remaining years of working life.

My situation is that I am a 55 year old contemplating a change of career and venturing into the work of domestic installation.

I have no mortgage and am able to survive on a minimum income, but I'm not the kind of person to retire early. During my school days, when God was a boy, the educational system refused to accept I wanted to enter any trade based on my exam results and insisted I needed to go to Uni and get a "proper job".
It was also discovered that I am red/green colour deficient and I was assured I would never be a sparky!
My "wish" is to train as a domestic installer and work my remaining years in a game that I would be happy with. That said, there is no training within a million miles of South Wales but I am willing to move away from home to achieve this.


I don't want to get a Gold card but quality to handles domestic installations, EICR's, and smaller jobs in general.

I have an reasonable DIY knowledge of electrics and have carried out rewires on my own property in years gone by, and I am fully aware of the pitfalls of training so late in life.

So, the question is, am I simply too old to start? Wasting my time?
Also, I would need to get some employment as an electricians mate to gain at least 2 years experience and gain Napit CP registration.
I would be willing to work for less than minimum wage (which is legal as long as I confirm this in writing to any employer), I would be willing to work for free for a year as worst case scenario.

Do you think any spark would consider such a person?

I am not naïve with regards to working for myself as I ran my own business for several years and I understand this would be a gamble. But what price can you put on job satisfaction?

Many Thanks for reading.

Richard

Depends if you want to be competent or just a pretender, nothing like an aprenticeship training program and many years of ciansecriv\experience to become fully trained these days ,far to many wannabes pretending to be Electricians theses days

 

[ipd1961]

Please be as honest as you can all, I'm looking for real honest views before I waste thousands of pounds and my few remaining years of working life.

My situation is that I am a 55 year old contemplating a change of career and venturing into the work of domestic installation.

I have no mortgage and am able to survive on a minimum income, but I'm not the kind of person to retire early. During my school days, when God was a boy, the educational system refused to accept I wanted to enter any trade based on my exam results and insisted I needed to go to Uni and get a "proper job".
It was also discovered that I am red/green colour deficient and I was assured I would never be a sparky!
My "wish" is to train as a domestic installer and work my remaining years in a game that I would be happy with. That said, there is no training within a million miles of South Wales but I am willing to move away from home to achieve this.


I don't want to get a Gold card but quality to handles domestic installations, EICR's, and smaller jobs in general.

I have an reasonable DIY knowledge of electrics and have carried out rewires on my own property in years gone by, and I am fully aware of the pitfalls of training so late in life.

So, the question is, am I simply too old to start? Wasting my time?
Also, I would need to get some employment as an electricians mate to gain at least 2 years experience and gain Napit CP registration.
I would be willing to work for less than minimum wage (which is legal as long as I confirm this in writing to any employer), I would be willing to work for free for a year as worst case scenario.

Do you think any spark would consider such a person?

I am not naïve with regards to working for myself as I ran my own business for several years and I understand this would be a gamble. But what price can you put on job satisfaction?

Many Thanks for reading.

Richard

I am a JIB graded approved electrician who is now an Engineer in Healthcare. In 2019 I commenced a Foundation degree in Hospital Engineering which I completed this year and I start my BSc to follow on from the Foundation Degree this month.
I am 61 and no it's never too late to learn

 

[littlespark]

Reading back the OP, is the colourblind issue still a problem for becoming an electrician… even a 5 week- wonder fast track?

I remember when I was 16 and becoming an apprentice, that was one of the prerequisites, along with some simple maths and a few logic problems.

 

[GroovyG]

Well done, Richard, good attitude.
I needed a career change at age 54, (from a healthcare related profession), managed to get a 2330 place at Swindon, one day a week, and eventually enough agency placements (as a mate, of course) to learn the mechanics of the trade. Like you, also had extensive DIY experience which included various facets of construction besides having electrical and electronic knowledge.
It worked for me, and having passed 17th & 18th Edition tests (and an AM2, which they told me afterwards that I didn't actually need), I ended up in a super maintenance job that included a fair bit of new install. In retirement, I still do it on a voluntary basis for my favourite local outdoor activity youthwork charity.
Coming onto the trade as late as I did, it remained 'fun'; had I been doing it from age 16, I'm sure I'd have had enough by now.
I think other comments above may be useful; my strong preference is for industrial/commercial rather than domestic, for a number of reasons that include the above.
Regarding your colour vision issue, I suspect it might not be as great a bar as you fear. It's very important to know that there's a world of difference between 'colour defective' and 'colour blind'. Colour vision deficiency can be regarded as a 3 dimensional space, with normal colour vision represented as one small area within that space. How far away from that area you are, can be determined by a number of quantitative tests. Your optometrist should be able to help if he/she is any good (and if not, find an Independent one rather than one of the national/local groups); they will be able to refer you to the optometry department of Cardiff University for a further opinion if they can't advise fully themselves.
Hope all that helps.
Graham

 

[HappyHippyDad]

The OP hasn't been on again since writing his first message, however the colour blind issue is interesting.

I can't see a problem being colour blind in a domestic setting. You are mainly dealing with either red/black cable or brown/blue. 3 core and earth, old and new colours also but when do you ever decide if a conductor is a permanent live, switch live or neutral based on it's colour? You always test.

Also, the only colour that looks the same is the red (from the older twin and earth) and the brown (from the newer twin and earth). Both would 'usually' be classed as line conductors, but again you just test. Also, if you have a red conductor poking out at you and a brown, you will know which is which as the red will be with the black and the brown will be with the blue.

I have known a colour blind electrician for years. He has only once needed to ask someone the colour of a conductor. This was in a cat5e cable. Even then he could have used continuity tests if he didn't have anyone to ask.

Commercial/Industrial may well be a different story, out of my remit though.