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Situation is there's some 53 year old pyro cable that I need to either remove, or make dead, or cut short and push back into the wall having ensured that the still-live end cannot short out the circuit or come into contact with anything.

No hope of fully removing it, as it goes up the cavity and I don't even know the route it takes.
Chances of finding the junction box that connects it to the downstairs power ring are remote, I suspect it connects at a junction box fixed into the wall behind fixed cupboards, next to pipes, in a kitchen, and below the bath (bathroom above the kitchen), however I cannot be sure. I also am not sure I can take the cupboards down without damaging them (I'm no carpenter/kitchen fitter).

SKIP TO THE POINT:

The obvious thing to do seems to be to cut the cable just after it leaves the outside house, fix the end in such a way that it's not going to short the circuit or make live anything it comes into contact with, and shove it back into the wall (then cement over it). I've not had to deal with pyro before, how would you recommend going about this?
 
you can't just bury a live cable. nobody will know it's there unles there's an accessory or a blanked box to indicate the presence of cable.
 
Ok what I meant in full, thought this much was apparent sorry: pull out the fuse for the circuit it's connected to, cut through the pyro close to the wall, (and here's the bit I needed to know about dealing with pyro for) put a new cap/gland or whatever pyro uses on the end of it and put a suitable box or something over the end of it so it's not going to short circuit or connect to anything etc, expand the hole in the wall so it can be pushed in there, push it far enough back that the end can be cemented over (it goes into the cavity), and then cement over it.

Not for a second (again I thought this was clear sorry) did I intend to just snip and shove. That's why I was looking for advice on how to do that with pyro.
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No, you intended leaving it live and just hiding it, you clearly stated this in your original post:

The obvious thing to do seems to be to cut the cable just after it leaves the outside house, fix the end in such a way that it's not going to short the circuit or make live anything it comes into contact with, and shove it back into the wall
 
tie it in a knot. solder a lamp on it. make a art deco feature.
Well I'm sort of half way there.
[ElectriciansForums.net] How to deal with Pyro Cable?
 
to be honest OP just cut it,tape it over and tuck it away. It's perfectly fine that way. The way people go OTT about safe isolation is quite frankly ridiculous

Really? Just leave a live cable hidden away where nobody knows where it is? And charge the customer? Daz
 
Since this thread has gone off course a bit:
OP: An MI seal is not for 'sealing off' the end of a disused cable, it is for preventing moisture getting into the end of a completed termination. Sealing an end leaves the bare conductors poking out ready for sleeving and connecting up. The only reason you would want to seal a disused cable would be to prevent moisture ingress in case it was to be used again in the future - in any case it should be disconnected at source.
 
Are you having a laugh?

No,no definitely not gramps. By the time you've shelled out for glands, pots,seals,neoprene,stripper and a crimper because only old geezers like you still own them its not worth it. I mean, dont get me wrong, as an old soldier who's spent years grumbling in the game like you knows full well you still charge him full expenses. I'm sure you've pulled more than a trick or twenty like that over the years

cliff notes: rinse him and move on
 
No,no definitely not gramps. By the time you've shelled out for glands, pots,seals,neoprene,stripper and a crimper because only old geezers like you still own them its not worth it. I mean, dont get me wrong, as an old soldier who's spent years grumbling in the game like you knows full well you still charge him full expenses. I'm sure you've pulled more than a trick or twenty like that over the years

cliff notes: rinse him and move on
Skilled electricians carry gear for making off MIÇC cables, your comments are offensive and are of no value what so ever.
 

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