Hunt caught out

[YoungScud]

HALF of NHS bosses Jeremy Hunt said backed him DENY support for imposing new doctors contracts - Mirror Online

Thoughts? I know it's the Mirror, but there are several other sources for this story.

 

[Pete999]

Spineless no chin idiot IMO

 

[Midwest]

I've been trying to understand exactly what the details of the dispute is about. I've read and heard is about extending doctors hours but also altering contract for enhanced payments for unsocial hours?

 

[Octopus]

I must confess I'm confused by all this. Neither side have telling a coherent message if you ask me - and I doubt either side has been totally honest either...

 

[UNG]

To be honest I can't understand why they are negotiating a Monday to Friday contract and arguing over weekend working enhancements to create a fully 7 days a week NHS surely they need a contract that makes the weekend part of a normal working rota

 

[Englishman]

From what I've read, and heard, a lot of it seems to come down to money. They don't care about working evenings and weekends, as they do anyway, but they want to be paid more for those shifts (most currently get overtime rates). I'm fairly sure that firemen, police and paramedics don't get extra so I don't see why they should in all honesty. It seems to be aimed at saving money for the NHS.

You'll never see a balanced report though so it's next to impossible to form an objective opinion. But money seems to be a big issue.

 

[Octopus]

From what I've read, and heard, a lot of it seems to come down to money. They don't care about working evenings and weekends, as they do anyway, but they want to be paid more for those shifts (most currently get overtime rates). I'm fairly sure that firemen, police and paramedics don't get extra so I don't see why they should in all honesty. It seems to be aimed at saving money for the NHS.

You'll never see a balanced report though so it's next to impossible to form an objective opinion. But money seems to be a big issue.

My misses gets enhanced payments for weekends and night shifts so some NHS workers do......

 

[sean_ork]

Would anyone here be happy to have a new contract (which they strongly disagree with) imposed on them ?

 

[Octopus]

Would anyone here be happy to have a new contract (which they strongly disagree with) imposed on them ?

no but it happened to me many years ago. Accept it or find a new job was the situation. So I accepted it and left 6 months later

 

[sean_ork]

no but it happened to me many years ago. Accept it or find a new job was the situation. So I accepted it and left 6 months later

seeing as the nasty party want to distroy the NHS that's probably the outcome they are hoping for

 

[Octopus]

seeing as the nasty party want to distroy the NHS that's probably the outcome they are hoping for

What are the SNP up to?

 

[sean_ork]

What are the SNP up to?

aiming to recruit a few of those disgruntled English doctors ?


as are the Welsh, and the Aussies ......

 

[Midwest]

Don't start that again. Sean you seem to be in the know, can you explain the dispute from both sides?

 

[sean_ork]

Don't start that again. Sean you seem to be in the know, can you explain the dispute from both sides?

Start what ? all I've done is answer Murdochs question


and don't be so lazy, do your own research, form your own opinions, do some thinking

 

[Englishman]

seeing as the nasty party want to distroy the NHS that's probably the outcome they are hoping for

What a balanced argument you provide. This is the problem with you, you're so left wing, and so anti Tory, that you can't provide a sensible argument, and your comment of "the nasty party want to destroy the NHS" exemplifies this. I would like to see your reasons for thinking this, all I've really seen on the subject is that they're pumping more money into it than ever, and trying to cut waste and make the service more efficient, while also providing a 7 day service. I think to only have a standard 9-5, Monday to Friday full service from the NHS, in 2016, is a complete disgrace. It also explains why urgent referrals take 4 months. So surely a 24/7 service would cut waiting lists and see patients seen far quicker? It interests me why it's ok for doctors to demand higher wages for working after 5pm, or on a weekend, but it's not ok for the Health Secretary to negotiate with that and try to minimise the times that premium wages are paid, therefore saving the NHS millions per year, which could then be spent on patients or more doctors/nurses...