Pete's Videos I know it's old hat.

[Pete999]

I found the very subtle digs at Ms Clancy's presentation very amusing, the pictures of wads of cash appearing everywhere, the Chap sat behind Her right shoulder, smiling in what I thought was disbelief, worth a watch.

 

[Pete999]

All these schemes have done is take the pressure off LBC who would not have been able to cope when Part P came into effect. They have pulled in electricians who work in the new and existing domestic housing markets and for some good those like kitchen fitters etc.

Not sure what your point is Ant.

 

[Toneyz]

So a qualified experienced competent electrician who in his career has done domestic finishing off working in commercial so not needed to join a scheme retires let's call him Pete and wants to install a 10mm to replace the 6mm for his previous shower either get stung for the LBC fees or has to employ an electrician that belongs to one of these schemes.

 

[Pete999]

All these schemes have done is take the pressure off LBC who would not have been able to cope when Part P came into effect. They have pulled in electricians who work in the new and existing domestic housing markets and for some good those like kitchen fitters etc.

Not sure what your point is Ant.

 

[Toneyz]

Not sure what your point is Ant.

my point is these schemes have come into being to admin for building control.

 

[Toneyz]

Which is why I said you can work in the NON DOMESTIC sector without being registered with a scheme and earn more money doing so.

So what about us electricians that work in the commercial sector who want to something in their own home.

 

[westward10]

Crack on I do.

 

[westward10]

All these schemes have done is take the pressure off LBC who would not have been able to cope when Part P came into effect. They have pulled in electricians who work in the new and existing domestic housing markets and for some good those like kitchen fitters etc.

How does this answer #12?

 

[Midwest]

Which is why I said you can work in the NON DOMESTIC sector without being registered with a scheme and earn more money doing so.

And what I'm saying, is there's bad boys in the non domestic market. Part P intention was to police the bad boys, it hasn't worked, cost good sparks money. Why should the non domestic market be different.

 

[Pete999]

my point is these schemes have come into being to admin for building control.

No Mate to make the Directors rich people. That's the only reason.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Not sure the intention of Part P was to police anyone.
If it was, then they went about it the wrong way.
As it is the onus of compliance with Part P falls on the householder or person ordering the work.
The Competent Person Schemes ar nothing more than a register and a method of notifying work after the fact.
If a registered person conducts substandard work or is shown to be incompetent, Part P has no mechanism with which to censure or take that person to task.
All Part P can do is chase the householder or person ordering the work to put things right.
Trading Standards might be able to step in if work is sub standard and the Competent Person Schemes might ask the person to put any substandard work to rights.

 

[Midwest]

Not sure the intention of Part P was to police anyone.
If it was, then they went about it the wrong way.
As it is the onus of compliance with Part P falls on the householder or person ordering the work.
The Competent Person Schemes ar nothing more than a register and a method of notifying work after the fact.
If a registered person conducts substandard work or is shown to be incompetent, Part P has no mechanism with which to censure or take that person to task.
All Part P can do is chase the householder or person ordering the work to put things right.
Trading Standards might be able to step in if work is sub standard and the Competent Person Schemes might ask the person to put any substandard work to rights.

Well anyway, disagree with your first paragraph.

Part P was brought into being, to 'which would bring domestic electrical installation work in England and Wales under the legal framework of the Building Regulations' (IET citation).

What other description would you give it then?

 

[Pete999]

Well anyway, disagree with your first paragraph.

Part P was brought into being, to 'which would bring domestic electrical installation work in England and Wales under the legal framework of the Building Regulations' (IET citation).

What other description would you give it then?

Doesn't it mention somewhere that Part P was brought in (whatever that means) to ensure that Domestic electrical work complied with BS 7671 the Regulations, now most Electricians I know work well within BS 7671, so why all the carp about being Part P qualified, it's just BS and I don't mean British Standards either.

 

[LankyWill]

I cant see how they can impose joining a scheme on you, lets say you carry out domestic work and arent registered with a scheme. Whats the worst they can do? write a letter to you or demand you join. If your works up to standard and you have all the correct insurances what leg do the schemes have to stand on?

 

[StephenRowley]

Who ever thought fused neutrals where a good idea?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Well anyway, disagree with your first paragraph.

Part P was brought into being, to 'which would bring domestic electrical installation work in England and Wales under the legal framework of the Building Regulations' (IET citation).

What other description would you give it then?

Disagree all you want.
The fact is, that Part P is part of the Building Regulations.
As such, all that can be policed, is that the Building Regulations are complied with.
The method used is to serve improvement and enforcement orders on the householder.