Inspection&Test and EICR

[KashBag]

Hi guys,
As a qualified electrician, do you need to be registered with a Scheme in order to carry out Inspection&Test and EICR? It is not notifiable anyway! According to the Regs being competent is sufficient, but you never know, every day we hear a new thing . I have completed the Verification, Inspection and testing course to be on the safe side!

 

[loz2754]

Hi guys,
Do you need to be registered with a Scheme in order to carry out Inspection&Test and EICR? It is not notifiable anyway! According to the Regs being competent is sufficient, but you never know how, every day we hear a new thing . I have completed the Verification, Inspection and testing course to be on the safe side!

No you don't have to be registered with a competent persons scheme to do EICRs, at least in theory. But in reality most landlords and letting agencies (for private rented accommodation) will not hire you unless you are registered.

 

[KashBag]

No you don't have to be registered with a competent persons scheme to do EICRs, at least in theory. But in reality most landlords and letting agencies (for private rented accommodation) will not hire you unless you are registered.

all about money and private corp business )), but understandable as well.

 

[nicebutdim]

all about money and private corp business )), but understandable as well.

Probably more about setting a bar, but lay people have little understanding of what it means to be registered with a scheme. I guess schemes provide an air of legitimacy to them.

 

[loz2754]

If you check the guidance for landlords on the Private Rented Sector 2020 regulations, there is a section that states that scheme membership is not required. So you could use that if the client is insistent.

Another thing that should be considered essential is Professional Indemnity insurance, for anyone issuing EICRs. But it has to specify in the insurance schedule that the cover is specifically for inspection and testing of electrical installations.

 

[KashBag]

If you check the guidance for landlords on the Private Rented Sector 2020 regulations, there is a section that states that scheme membership is not required. So you could use that if the client is insistent.

Another thing that should be considered essential is Professional Indemnity insurance, for anyone issuing EICRs. But it has to specify in the insurance schedule that the cover is specifically for inspection and testing of electrical installations.

Yes, good point with the indemnity stuff. I have one and it covers test and inspection etc.

 

[mainline]

Yes, good point with the indemnity stuff. I have one and it covers test and inspection etc.

One of the other considerations is that if someone is registered as a domestic installer with NICEIC then they can't use their certificates unless they are registered as a contractor.

 

[mainline]

I guess schemes provide an air of legitimacy to them.

And don't forget the air of competency

 

[KashBag]

One of the other considerations is that if someone is registered as a domestic installer with NICEIC then they can't use their certificates unless they are registered as a contractor.

Thanks. I have designed my own template and as far as I know it is fully legal, right? As long as I have indemnity all OK.

 

[mainline]

Thanks. I have designed my own template and as far as I know it is fully legal, right? As long as I have indemnity all OK.

There are lots of places to download the forms for free.

 

[KashBag]

There are lots of places to download the forms for free.

Cheers, do you think I can find them in exel as well? That way I could add my own logo and other legal details. cheers

 

[Teddy Lop]

No you don't have to be registered with a competent persons scheme to do EICRs, at least in theory. But in reality most landlords and letting agencies (for private rented accommodation) will not hire you unless you are registered.

I dunno about most, there's a shocking amount of ignorance out there.

Anyone can buy a pad of certs and go testing, and going on some of what I see that's exactly what some people do! (And that's not to say I don't see scheme certs too that should have been printed on softer paper, at least they'd be good for something!)

I'm currently on an EICR for a large bakery, the manager informed me with some suprise at my requirement to switch things off, the last one was done "remotely".

Out of interest OP why as a qualified spark would you want to operate without scheme membership? For all the downsides with the schemes themselves at least it looks like you're trying...

 

[nicebutdim]

Out of interest OP why as a qualified spark would you want to operate without scheme membership? For all the downsides with the schemes themselves at least it looks like you're trying...

There are numerous reasons why someone may choose to not join a scheme.

 

[westward10]

I dunno about most, there's a shocking amount of ignorance out there.

That made me chuckle.

 

[UNG]

I dunno about most, there's a shocking amount of ignorance out there.

And it is not just the landlords and letting agents looking at the quality of some of the EICR's

Anyone can buy a pad of certs and go testing fill them in, and going on some of what I see that's exactly what some people do! (And that's not to say I don't see scheme certs too that should have been printed on softer paper, at least they'd be good for something!)

Corrected that for you

I'm currently on an EICR for a large bakery, the manager informed me with some suprise at my requirement to switch things off, the last one was done "remotely".

That will be a cloud based cert

Out of interest OP why as a qualified spark would you want to operate without scheme membership? For all the downsides with the schemes themselves at least it looks like you're trying...

Looking at most of the NICEIC and for that matter the NAPIT certs I have seen over the last few years the schemes don't add much if any credibility to the quality and accuracy of the reports their registered competent persons and approved contractors are producing
The schemes over the last 10 - 20 years have got themselves stuck in the money pit and are struggling to climb out of it to re-establish a standard that they had in the past before the race to the bottom that was driven by Emma Clancy when she was at the helm of certsure