installing a isolation switch

[nocowboy]

hi new to the forum i'm not a sparky but a bricklayer so not that clued up on electrics.I have just installed a new kitchen after being told by the sparky at work how too i have added another 2 new double wall sockets,to the main ring which was fine until the mrs changed the design round and wanted to put her dishwasher and washing machine under an additional worktop, this means the double socket will be beneath the worktop and will be behind the appliances so i presume it must have a isolation switch above the worktop, so to install an isolation switch to that socket what would be the best way to do it? and do you wire a isolation switch to the main ring just like a normal wall socket then spur of this to the socket as i need to put in another for the extractor fan ? also i want to install a outside socket to a brick built shed that is adjoining the house would it be ok to just spur of a double socket for this? sorry for all the questions

 

[Guest123]

Can't your 'sparky from work' friend help you as he will obviously be certifying the job & registering it with LABC???

 

[telectrix]

as lenny says, a bit more to it than running a few yards of cable. i can build bricks, but you could probably use them as a climbing aid. each to his own - get your sparks in.

 

[nocowboy]

he could do but has just gone to the states on holiday so don't want to be bothering him whilst he's away

 

[telectrix]

well, you don't have to fit isolation switches for the appliance sockets. the plug/socket itself is an effective means of isolation. however folks like to be able to easily isolate appliances when not in use. a double pole isolator is the ideal remedy.

 

[nocowboy]

cheers lads i can understand that you don't want to help a unqualified peep thats fine, but i don't see why i would have to contact building control for adding 2 extra sockets to a kitchen, could you enlighten me to why

 

[cablemonkey]

Google Part P and you will see you need to be approved or contact your LABC for an inspection.

 

[Amp David]

Not another, god help us all:beatnik:

 

[Octopus]

Makes you wonder if Part P is "advertised" at all

 

[Specialist]

Part P is a waste of space, all it's doing is making the LABC's & schemes money. It's not stopping Cowboys doing domestic work & I seriously doubt it ever will.

 

[Amp David]

It doesn't make the LABC money, as unregistered sparks have to fork out a load more than if you're registered. If no one was Part peed then the LABCs around the country would be loving it.

 

[electromonkey]

Makes you wonder if Part P is "advertised" at all

It isn't really is it. That's the biggest problem. Most lay people who've heard of Part P think it's a qualification and therefore don't understand what it is or what it is for.

People need to be told what it is, not left to investigate for themselves. Take the OP as an example. He doesn't know any different (though his spark friend could have been more useful in telling him) and why would he know any different? I can't say I have ever seen an advert anywhere explaining Part P and the do's and don't s of electrical work in homes.

Again I fear yet another post can be hijacked in to Part P rant so my parting advice to the OP would be, I would like to help you mate, but I think it's in your best interest that I don't. If you can hang on for your sparky friend to come home then I think that would be best. Cheers.

 

[Octopus]

It isn't really is it. That's the biggest problem. Most lay people who've heard of Part P think it's a qualification and therefore don't understand what it is or what it is for.

People need to be told what it is, not left to investigate for themselves. Take the OP as an example. He doesn't know any different (though his spark friend could have been more useful in telling him) and why would he know any different? I can't say I have ever seen an advert anywhere explaining Part P and the do's and don't s of electrical work in homes.

Again I fear yet another post can be hijacked in to Part P rant so my parting advice to the OP would be, I would like to help you mate, but I think it's in your best interest that I don't. If you can hang on for your sparky friend to come home then I think that would be best. Cheers.

Agreed but the OP is in the building trade so you would have hoped that they would have heard about it!.

 

[nocowboy]

thanks lads i have been in the building for 30 years but never deal with electrics so thats probably why i have never heard of part p, never had any reason to know about it, but it's something else i have learnt.

 

[polo1]

You know, sometimes us sparkies are so up ourselves! Why on earth do we keep believing that other trades or the general public should know as much about the rules and regs of our trade as we do?????

The simple fact is that the trade missed the boat in getting electrical installation works, parts etc restricted to qualified persons (as per CORGI/Gas Safe) and it aint gonna change now. Get over it :chillpill: