!...Is £495 to little to charge to supply & fit a consumer unit..?!

[nickblake]

so a builder changes a CU charges £65 , so for that there will be no cert and no notification and definatly not tested, the work that he has carried out is a contravention of Part P of the building regulations which is a legal requirement so he has commited an offence and there for should be reported ,

 

[nickblake]

It usually doesn't take all day but then again you dunno what you are going to come up against.

Make sure you suss the job out first i.e. are cables long enough

With testing the property properly it does , you cant do a good job in 5 minuits !!!!

 

[TPES]

With testing the property properly it does , you cant do a good job in 5 minuits !!!!

My thoughts exactly, I always allow a days labour for a CU change.. But that's because I take pride in my work and actually test all the circuits.

There's to many registered cowboys (they do exist..) changing the board in less than an hour and test cert done in half an hour then gone... These are the people I am loosing too, the customer doesn't care and usually knows no different anyway.

 

[JD6400]

My thoughts exactly, I always allow a days labor for a CU change.. But that's because I take pride in my work and actually test all the circuits.

There's to many registered cowboys (they do exist..) changing the board in less than an hour and test cert done in half an hour then gone... These are the people I am loosing too, the customer doesn't care and usually knows no different anyway.

Same here !
How can it not take at least half a day to do a pir , you show me a property out there that has no defects !
We have even tested new builds by the big boys and found way more than one and that particular property was only a one bed flat !
I don't even know for sure what constitutes allowing you to do just 10% / 50% it is 100% thats just what it is !
At my motors next mot i must remember to ask the fella doing it if he could just do 10 % of the safety check on my brakes if it might save me 20p on repairs !

 

[Electricalserv]

20 pound an hour. Are you being serious. You can earn more than that washing cars.

Depends where you are mate, sure Down London your looking at £35 an hour but remember jib rates are only £16 an hour and sometimes you can't be greedy to get the work, especially domestics. There's people who will do it for £100 a day

 

[se7aq]

Ay up Each..!

This bloke I know paud £500 for a new CU but with no certifcation. His electrician said it would cost him more for certification and bonding....

These are the types of "electricians" that give good honest hard working ones a bad name. £500 pounds for a CU with no certificate indeed.

 

[Electricalserv]

I'm doing mine for £320 bonding and cert included. Lost a job last week - too expensive. So counter offered £300 all in. I got the job. £20 quid what a stinge!

 

[TPES]

I'm doing mine for £320 bonding and cert included. Lost a job last week - too expensive. So counter offered £300 all in. I got the job. £20 quid what a stinge!

If bonding is included then £300 is dirt cheap!

Some old terrace houses have the stop tap right at the back of the house in the kitchen with the CU right at the front door... Some times takes most the day up just bonding... There's your profit gone

 

[flukey]

just priced one up including 10 way mk board, new tails and upgrade main earth £360 all in.

 

[Electricalserv]

If bonding is included then £300 is dirt cheap!

Some old terrace houses have the stop tap right at the back of the house in the kitchen with the CU right at the front door... Some times takes most the day up just bonding... There's your profit gone

on my website I have a disclaimer that says install must be evaluated before special offer can be given. In other words if I see its going to be a ball-ache of a job I tell them it will be more. In this case water and gas was all of 4m from board under floorboards. Just over half a day, job done!

 

[nikmet]

With customers prepared to attempt most smaller electrical jobs themselves, the one job left that most still wont tackle is a cu change, therefore if you cant charge a good price for this what can you? I never lower my prices to undercut others for 2 main reasons....firstly many customers will fabricate a low previous quote out of thin air and see if your naive enough to work for less, and secondly I would have loads of work but not a lot of cash to show for my efforts, also not quite sure what the JIB rate has to do with what anyone is prepared to charge their labour out at?

 

[Electricalserv]

With customers prepared to attempt most smaller electrical jobs themselves, the one job left that most still wont tackle is a cu change, therefore if you cant charge a good price for this what can you? I never lower my prices to undercut others for 2 main reasons....firstly many customers will fabricate a low previous quote out of thin air and see if your naive enough to work for less, and secondly I would have loads of work but not a lot of cash to show for my efforts, also not quite sure what the JIB rate has to do with what anyone is prepared to charge their labour out at?

In reply to why I raised the jib rate-I was merely bringing up the fact that for £16 an hour ALOT of sparks are happy with that. The money ontop of that is usually to cover your business expenses. £20 per hour to me gives me a decent living and covers my running costs. I charge this on domestic work as this is how I get the work. In rare cases I will charge more. But £160 a day for my personal wage is enough it's £800 per week before tax etc. I am not greedy and I think some people ask to much from their customer. As I said previously it also depends where you are £600 a week in london take home wouldn't supply anywhere near as it does up here.

*Edit to say - If I am fault finding I charge more as this is a skill that alot of sparks don't have. No disrespect but theres installers and testers and there is a big difference. I charge a price which is dependent on the nature of the fault. I have no prices set in stone but I do log prices that I have previously charged to give me a rough idea of where I'm at. Ther other day I went to a fault on a kitchen socket. It wasn't working did IR test then continuity and found the break. Replaced cable. I was there an hour and a half. I charged £60 I thought it was very reasonable. I had an off cut of 2.5mm in the car so that cost zilch so £60 covered petrol and my wage. Not bad for 1 & half hours.

 

[Victor]

OK guys

How much would you charge for a cu board change that has 4rcds and 48mcbs including bonding?

That is obout the norm here in France for a 4 bed house.

I look forward to hearing your comments

 

[Electricalserv]

OK guys

How much would you charge for a cu board change that has 4rcds and 48mcbs including bonding?

That is obout the norm here in France for a 4 bed house.

I look forward to hearing your comments

Your looking about a grand maybe more

 

[kenny james]

wylex boards can be picked up for £100, £30. p/h and bonding with certs. £495 is fine.

 

[flukey]

wylex boards can be picked up for £80 in screwfix and the op didnt mention bonding, just cu change.

 

[Octopus]

OK guys

How much would you charge for a cu board change that has 4rcds and 48mcbs including bonding?

That is obout the norm here in France for a 4 bed house.

I look forward to hearing your comments

My understanding of French regulations is that all circuits are radials, so 48 radials to locate the ends of and test - that's a lot so certainly about 2 days plus all the parts etc so you're probably looking at £750 - £800 (don't know about notification and/or associated costs)

 

[Victor]

No need to notify or issue any paper work.

Ball park figs

Material costs approx 700pds with labour approx another 600pds

 

[Octopus]

No need to notify or issue any paper work.

Ball park figs

Material costs approx 700pds with labour approx another 600pds

Materials £700 - ouch!

 

[Victor]

mcbs at 14 euros each, rcds at 50 for a 40amp and 60 for a 63amp and for a 3 phase system you need 4 rcds, it soon mounts up

 

[Octopus]

mcbs at 14 euros each, rcds at 50 for a 40amp and 60 for a 63amp and for a 3 phase system you need 4 rcds, it soon mounts up

So its 3-phase - that'll have an impact, however 14 Euro's for MCb's is steep - under £3.00 in dear old blighty!

 

[Victor]

So its 3-phase - that'll have an impact, however 14 Euro's for MCb's is steep - under £3.00 in dear old blighty!

Not all properties are 3 phase, many are monophase, MCB's are duel pole, but still cheaper in the UK

 

[rocker]

They always use DP MCBs in France costs a fortune