Is EIC required for this job (New CU & ring main) Electrician says no?

[Artoo]

Hi, I've contacted an electrician to install a new consumer unit, as well as a new ring main into the loft. I asked if his quote included the appropriate certification, I assume an EIC, he said "as far as certification is concerned you don't need any as it's straight replacements", I checked my local council building control regs which state that "notifiable works include a) The installation of a new circuit; b) The replacement of a consumer unit"

So is he trying to save me £480 by not making a building regs application for a £100 consumer unit? Or is he cutting corners and I should look for someone else? He appears to be legit, positive reviews on Ratedpeople and accredited by NAPIT. Could you guys advise, I don't know enough about certification to call him out on this but I don't want a cowboy job that I'll regret later..

Can anyone help?

 

[westward10]

Never ceases to amaze me the level of some people's stupidity.

 

[Artoo]

When challenged about the certification this is the reply I got:
"I am sorry i got confused and thought your quote was someone elses that i did today as well for replacing exsisting lights , yes the fuseboard change can be certified which i can so , however this then assumes that the exsisting wiring is up to standard if any faults are found they will need to be corrected before a certificate can be issued or not connected to the fuseboard it can be a problem but let's be positive"

 

[telectrix]

sounds like a genuine mistake on his part. just ask him to verify that the job will be notified to BC through Napit. most sparks will give the installation a brief inspection and test before carrying out a consumer unit change, to see if therewill be any problems arising from faults on circuits.
as an aside. I'm in Cheshire and would be happy to give you a 2nd quote. then you can decide on which to accept.

 

[Midwest]

---- happens

 

[Midwest]

Lost in translation. Re the second bit, if your house has some dodgey faults, that's extra. Par for the course. I'm otta of here. Merry Xmas to one and all. Wonder what Santa Claus has got for me tonite. Try to sleep or not open my eyes. Wait up that's for 6 year olds not 60 year olds

 

[Midwest]

sounds like a genuine mistake on his part. just ask him to verify that the job will be notified to BC through Napit. most sparks will give the installation a brief inspection and test before carrying out a consumer unit change, to see if therewill be any problems arising from faults on circuits.
as an aside. I'm in Cheshire and would be happy to give you a 2nd quote. then you can decide on which to accept.

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[MJPD29]

It does sound like a genuine mistake I have to say, hopefully I'm not wrong. Oh and merry Christmas everyone

 

[richy3333]

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That's the thing, he is registered with NAPIT so I don't see why it would be an issue for him to provide the certificate. I've emailed him the building regs and questioned his assertion, but I think probably better to find someone else who isn't so cagey about certification to do the job! Thanks for the quick replies.

Copy your email to NAPIT too. Sounds like the two need a chat

 

[Spoon]

Copy your email to NAPIT too. Sounds like the two need a chat

People are thinking its a mistake from the electrician. see his reply on post #17.
I'm not so sure.. I wonder if he would have done no cert if the OP hadn't question it.......

 

[telectrix]

People are thinking its a mistake from the electrician. see his reply on post #17.
I'm not so sure.. I wonder if he would have done no cert if the OP hadn't question it.......

whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty?

 

[Spoon]

whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty?

haha ... I'm grumpy. What happened to knowing your job.

 

[telectrix]

---- happens. i once sent a customer an invoice for a call-out to replace a broken socket faceplate.... £965.oo. .... got crossed with a CU change and kitchen rewire. sometimes 1 digit can cause a major problem. ( as the actress said to the bishop, "missed it".

 

[Dave OCD]

I bet the kitchen rewire & CU change customer paid their £40 bill real quick though.

 

[Spoon]

**** happens..

True mate.. It would be interesting to see if the electrician would have actually give a cert if he did the work....

 

[dksanders]

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That's the thing, he is registered with NAPIT so I don't see why it would be an issue for him to provide the certificate. I've emailed him the building regs and questioned his assertion, but I think probably better to find someone else who isn't so cagey about certification to do the job! Thanks for the quick replies.

There are two certificates required so don't get confused as some of these replies seem to have.

1) There will need to be a Part P certificate and if he is part of a competent person scheme he can instigate that himself otherwise the LABC have to be involved and paid.

and

2) There needs to be an Electrical Installation Certificate for the CU change and one for the new circuit which every electrician doing this work should produce whether they are part of a competent scheme or not.