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I bull you not if they know how much you normally spend on your electric bills and they know what size system best suits you they could and should give you facts and figures to the penny and also the exact time period for your return on investment and dont be put off by your age i know people in there 80s that still buy panel systems.were are you based yourself?also yes the thermodynamics systems we use run off the atmosphere in any temperature down to -15degrees so works all year long to provide people with constant hot water and also only one panel needed.
 
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I can assure you they run of atmosphere they extract the heat from atmosphere day and night 1panel can provide a family of 4for hot water all year round.check out our website solarstyleuk.com or inbox me for a further chat
 
I bull you not if they know how much you normally spend on your electric bills and they know what size system best suits you they could and should give you facts and figures to the penny and also the exact time period for your return on investment

Exact amounts are not possible - not least because we don't know what the price of electricity will be in five years time, nor do we know what inflation will turn out to be, from which the FiT rats are annually adjusted.
Also my electricty usage habits will change over the years.

We can make a guess, but the further out the guess the more prone to random variation it will be, and, most likely, in 25 years time we can all look back and laugh at just how inaccurate some of the projected rates of return turned out to be.

My post #4 on this topic is probably a realistic and unbiased estimate, based on observations from my solar array and the arrays of many others (I am not in the business of selling solar so I can "tell it like I see it").
 
True in regards to rising energy bills but a sap calculation will give you accurate figures at current rates but all it means if energy bills rise again it just means the more money you would save and with the pv panels some people have even noticed them working off moonlight
 
True in regards to rising energy bills but a sap calculation will give you accurate figures at current rates but all it means if energy bills rise again it just means the more money you would save and with the pv panels some people have even noticed them working off moonlight

Moonlight? If this is true then I'll eat my own jaw and post a video of it on YouTube.
 
It all depends if its a full moon and posistion of moon as pv panels run off light not just sunlight so if moonlight strong enough it works and this isnt a fact we use to sell them this is what we have been told by customers who already have them fitted.
 
The only way I can even consider a system running off moonlight is if there was a huge amount of panels on a very small inverter - which would, of course, be pointless.

My offer of self-cannibalism remains.
 
I've no doubt some photons are actually reacting with the panels and producing a tiny amount of potential energy but it needs to produce a certain voltage high enough to kick the inverter into life which is surely unlikely in moonlight?
 
Moonlight? If this is true then I'll eat my own jaw and post a video of it on YouTube.

The sparky who did mine said that especially during the late-2011 rush, he sometimes had to continue working after dark, and that in moonlight there is a trace of electricity flowing from the panels (as you'd expect; any light on the panels counts), but, of course, it's far too little light and electricity to meet the startup requirement for the inverter.

My inverter goes to sleep at dusk and no matter how big or bright the moon, it has never powered-up, nor even flickered its status LED's as it does when the power-up sequence begins at dawn.
 
Yeah, and I'd imagine that the difference in terms of light reading between dusk and a nice bright full moon is pretty much colossal.
 
The people i spoke to said obviously it wasnt enough to shout about but it generated some electric and then obviously some income from fit
 
Fair enough that you don't mention it in your sales pitch but believe me, there are sales people all over the country that will use it in in theirs. And reading about it on a forum like this is all the information they need to back up this claim.
 

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