is there any other way to register?

[shadewakka]

Good afternoon ladies and gents!

Just a quick question, is they any other way to register rather than retaking your part p when it expires?

would 17th edition, inspect & Test & Install suffice or is Part Pee the only way!!

Thanks

 

[trev]

The EAL Domestic Installers Certificate is on offer at my local college and it's the biggest load of old guff I've come across in years. If you are installing to BS7671 you are installing to Part P of the building regs. There's probably a thousand ond one other DI certs on offer from Uncle Tom Cobley and all.
It's a worthless qual set up to part people from their money and to con them into thinking they're better qualified than they are

 

[linetech]

2391 is "Inspection, Testing & Certification" and is all based on hands on testing of Domestic, Commercial and Industrial installs. Part P is an important part of the building regulations, however only a small part. If you get on a 2393 course it covers:

Part: A (structure) depth of chases in walls and size of holes and notches in floor and roof joists

Part: B (Fire safety) fire saftey of certain electrical installations; provision of fire alarm and fire detection systems; fire resistance of penetrations through floors and walls;

Part: C (Site preparation and risistance to moisture): moisture resistance of cable penetrations through external walls;

Part: E (Resistance to the passage of sound): penetrations through floors and walls;

Part: F (Ventilation): ventilation rate for dwellings;

Part: L (Conservation of fuel and power): energy efficient lighting;

Part: M (Access to and use of buildings): heights of switche, socket outlets and other equipment.

Part P is as Geoffsd has explained. As you can see the building regulations are important part of electrical design, construction and are to be complied with by all qualified practising sparks. There are lots of schemes and short courses that are intended to relieve you of a few bucks but to keep it real you got to be doing the 2393.

Good Luck with that one

 

[SPARTYKUS]

1 day that 2393.

 

[djandyryan]

What about if you hold the 2392-10?

These conversations and post always interest me as it seems that we as Electricians have be screwed again by "governing bodies". The consumer seems to think that if you are not registered you can't do the job, all the NIC require is for "PERSONS TO BE COMPETENT" i only hold a 2392-10 in testing but am a QS for the NICIEC. Along with my Level 3 and 17th and 16 years experience...

Its all rubbish and made to create work and money, That's all!

What happened to being a member of the JIB and that being enough?

Everything seems to be a grey area!

Andy

 

[Strima]

When I received my nice shiny Part P certificate from NIC it stated only valid when registered with a competent persons scheme and for five years.

 

[djandyryan]

What is a Competent persons scheme?

 

[Geoffsd]

What is a Part P certificate?

 

[Bluesknight]

Has anyone got news on how the part P consultation is going?

 

[baldelectrician]

In Scotland you have to re-do yout building standards every 3 years

 

[rfears]

I obtained by Part-P Full Scope course in november 2011, and was told that you need to re-take the course every 5 years.

Move to Scotland, no PtP there!

But see post #24 above ...

 

[trev]

What is a Competent persons scheme?

A competent persons scheme is what is referred to on this forum as a scam, ie something that you pay for but receive no real benefit from.
According to the government and the NIC, NAPIT, ELECSA and a few others it is a way of proving your competency to carry out domestic electrical work which is notifiable to LABC. These schemes were introduced following the debacle which is Part P of the building regs, surprisingly nothing has been done to govern commercial and industrial installations. The electricity used there mustn't be dangerous

 

[SPARTYKUS]

A competent persons scheme is what is referred to on this forum as a scam, ie something that you pay for but receive no real benefit from.
According to the government and the NIC, NAPIT, ELECSA and a few others it is a way of proving your competency to carry out domestic electrical work which is notifiable to LABC. These schemes were introduced following the debacle which is Part P of the building regs, surprisingly nothing has been done to govern commercial and industrial installations. The electricity used there mustn't be dangerous

Ohhhh you are sooooooo right

 

[linetech]

No, its about 6 weeks as its the C&G qualification thats worth having. As djandyryan has said below, there is alot of quick fix bodies offering the 1-2 day thing that is an insult to the lads that have been in the field for 20 years plus. It seems to be getting worse with more and more course providers offering these crap schemes no end. Find a college and pay the little extra you be better off with real recognised qualifications..