Is this training course worthwhile? Time and Money?

[alanmcm]

Ive limited experience in the electrical field and im wanting to learn. Would this course be worth while? I cant get a placement with anyone as I have childcare issues and my employer doesnt have the time to train me from the beginning. The only issue I see with the course is that its 8 days long whereas an apprenticeship is 4 years. How can I learn everything needed in 8 days when it should take alot longer?


Part P)Full & Defined Scope Electrical Scheme
(APL)
The first three days of this course will provide a Practical application for electrical Installation in a domestic environment
This course covers
Using the correct cable and installation methods to give you the knowledge to completely install all the circuits in a domestic property.
Installation of distribution boards ,sockets ,lighting ,heating etc
It is design for those with little or no electrical experience.
Part P electrical qualification for those who wish to join either the ELECSA or NICEIC Electrical
Competent Person Schemes. The Full Scope Scheme is for those whose main role is domestic electrical
installations or maintenance and wish able to carry out full electrical installations including installing new
consumer units or ring mains. The Full Scope qualification includes all the areas originally mapped in the
EAS document that detailed 17 competency areas for electrical work being carried out within domestic
properties. This course has been fully updated in line with BS7671:2008 17th Edition Wiring Regulations
For more details on the ELECSA Electrical Competent Persons Scheme go to
http://www.elecsa.org.uk/
For more details on the NICEIC Domestic Installer Scheme go to
NICEIC, the home of contracting excellence - NICEIC

Course Duration: 8 days
Course cost £965.00 plus vat

 

[alanmcm]

I wish he was teaching me but he tells what he wants done then leaves me on my own, plus its only on a as needed basis so maybe a couple of days one week and then nothing for three weeks. But he wants to put me on the courses to get me full time inspecting and testing but Im worried ill not know enough about what Im doing and ultimately look like a tool if im wrong lol

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Sounds like a weird setup. I've not heard of anything like it. So you get used for work every now and then, unpaid, and the dude pays for your testing course, which you feel out of your depth doing as you have no experience?

Testing installations usually follows on from extensive installing experience. It's very hard (presumably) to go straight into initial verification and periodics without the fundamentals of the vagaries of installation work.

Perhaps you need to get on site as a mate and learn the trade the paid way.

 

[Engineer54]

thanks very much for the advice its greatly appreciated. Ill look into the 2394/5 courses and ill speak with my tutor to see if he can recommend where to do the courses. Im currently studying my HNC in electrical/mechanical engineering which doesnt provide any practical experience just theory

So who is paying for you're 3 year E&M HNC course at college??

 

[GLENNSPARK]

its about time these short, fast track courses were shut down...for the misleading rubbish that they are...pronto!!

 

[dingledong]

i did a 3 day course it was easy and in 5 years i have only killed 2 people and started 10 fires not bad eh

 

[Chrisuk]

i did a 3 day course it was easy and in 5 years i have only killed 2 people and started 10 fires not bad eh

Not too shabby ha

 

[Engineer54]

I'll ask again shall i, ...who is paying for the E&M HNC course, you say you are presently attending one full day a week??

 

[PEG]

My heart genuinely goes out to the OP and many others in a similar situation,these courses ARE,as i have said on many occasions,are the equivalent of the pay-day lending job...Desparation being the driver of their expansion. Identical shortcuts are all around us,for instance,who would have guessed 10 years ago that hairdressers could be doing surgical procedures after day courses? That is how the Botox job has driven standards in that field. Now,hairdressing is a job i would be the last person to 'diss',having friends who run successful businesses and make an embarrassing amount of money,but,none of them have swore an oath at medical university...To the OP,i will give a bit of advice me mates grandad gave me at age 13,if something LOOKS too good to be true,it probably is...Good Luck

 

[GLENNSPARK]

and i wont stop saying it:
these courses should be taken out of circulation.....at least then they wouldn`t even be an option...would they....

 

[Chrisuk]

I think when these companies are getting 7K for the course they will NEVER stop and I don't see who can make them, someone needs too!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I think when these companies are get 7K for the course they will NEVER stop and I don't see who can make them, someone needs too!

all i can say is this:

theres a right way...and a wrong way...to do anything....

 

[ian.settle1]

Im currently studying my HNC in electrical/mechanical engineering which doesnt provide any practical experience just theory

How times have changed at one time it was the highest qualification you could while still on the tools, looks like you can do it now without any practicable experience as with all electrical courses.