Issuing a Test Certificate......

[RMW-VXR]

Hey Guys,

Just a Quick question...
A customer of mine is wanting a test certificate for there house to be issued, They have an old wilex fuse board and i have been and tested out the 3 circuits

Ring Main
Lights
Cooker

obviously the wiring is old but they need the test certificate to borrow some money against the house but all i want to know is can i issue a test certificate because obviously the installation is old and has no earth on the lighting circuit but everything else has tested out fine!

Obviously i couldnt do an earth loop on the lights or and R1+R2 reading.

Any Advice guys?

Ross

 

[mnmwill]

Wouldnt a PIR be better?

 

[acat]

If you have not installed anything the only choice is as per the above post a PIR otherwise you will be accepting responsibility for someone elses work.


Chris

 

[RMW-VXR]

its the original installation mate from the 60's haha

 

[mnmwill]

Defo a PIR then m8

 

[lim88]

yes the only way is with a PIR, and just note down the tests that couldn't be done and why

 

[RMW-VXR]

sorry guys PIR? Periodic?

All im saying is can it be issued with no earth on the lighting circuit? does it just need to be mentioned on the recommendations?

 

[mnmwill]

No cpc on a lighting circuit supplying Class 2 equipmet is Code 2 for me, if there is Class 1 equipment on the circuit, Code 1. Also note on PIR that lighting cicuit unsuitable for Class 1 equipment.

 

[Mark_Burgess]

You need to do as mentioned a periodic inspection report, it will have the test results and all departures from the current regs noted on it like no earthing.

 

[lim88]

yes a periodic.

yes just note down the problems in the recommendations, and the tests not done and why in the limitations

 

[RMW-VXR]

Brilliant guys thanks! so a test certifiate can be issued?

All i shall note in the recommendations like you say is:

"No Earthing on lighting ciruit therfor not suitable for class 2 equipment and unable to obtain readings for this circuit".

Anything else you wud recommend putting down guys? All the equipment used on the circuit is the original from the original installation anyway. No new pendants or switches or anything!

 

[mnmwill]

If you look through the forum there are some useful posts with links for recommendations for codes on PIR's. Also downloadable PIR forms.

Cheers

 

[RMW-VXR]

Does it not matter that its an old wilex re-wirable fuse board then guys? it does have the push button breakers in rather than fuse wire. Also what do i do as far as earthing as it doesnt have a PME, earth is tagged off sheathing.
So Gas and water are not earthed! and to supply them with a 10mm wud mean a PME wud need to be fitted am i right?

 

[mnmwill]

What kind of tests have you carried out m8? No bonding on the services is Code 1 IMO, that needs to be rectified ASAP, and no, you wouldnt have to have the supply converted to PME to bond em.

 

[RMW-VXR]

done Earth Loop on cooker and ringmain
ring continuity
r1+r2 on cooker and ring

obviously cant do any tests on lighting as there is no earth!

i will bond the gas and water with 10mm then and just note down there is no PME?