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[Worcester]

There is no minimum height at which the Working at Heights Regulations 2005 apply.
A fall from 2m (single storey bungalow) is just as likely to cause serious injury as one from 6m, the only difference: You don't bounce as high.
Note these are legally enforceable Statutory Regulations, NOT guidelines or BS's. You can be JAILED for breaking them.

 

[solarsavings]

From memory: I believe most of us posting on this thread have used boss type towers on bungalow installs and they do not comply with the working at height regs when installing solar panels. But hey ho, when it's someone else..............

 

[infinity]

Looks like they are a local competitor of mine as well! Better remember this website for future customers

 

[SolarCity]

There is no minimum height at which the Working at Heights Regulations 2005 apply.
A fall from 2m (single storey bungalow) is just as likely to cause serious injury as one from 6m, the only difference: You don't bounce as high.
Note these are legally enforceable Statutory Regulations, NOT guidelines or BS's. You can be JAILED for breaking them.

I agree but as it is always me who works on the roof, I'm not putting anyone else at risk. If the pitch is shallow enough, I am sure most of us know we are safe enough to not take worry about the risk.

 

[jerriais]

Looks like they are a local competitor of mine as well! Better remember this website for future customers

Not on MCS and FiT info well out of date on website. Possibly out of the industry already. Plenty more like them though.

 

[Worcester]

RDB Green Ltd are listed on the NICEIC website with an address in Fareham

Alistair Colson Born: 28 years ago
Directorships:
Rubicon Design & Build Limited
06355929 (In Liquidation)
Possible Adverse Information19th July 2012
Director, Electrician
06 Apr 2009 — Present (4 years, 7 months, 4 days)

Rdb Green Limited
08275877
Director, Director
31 Oct 2012 — Present (1 year, 10 days)

 

[Gavin A]

A fall from 2m (single storey bungalow) is just as likely to cause serious injury as one from 6m, the only difference: You don't bounce as high.

That's completely wrong.

There's a very good chance of landing without injury from 2m for anyone who knows how to land, vs a good chance of serious injury if you land from 6m (though I remember falling about 6m from a tree as a kid and just being badly winded, so it is possible to land it ok, but I'd not recommend it).

From 2m you'd be travelling at 6.3 m/s when you landed vs 10.8 m/s if landing from 6m, or 14mph vs 24mph.

Or to put it another way, the landing from 2m is pretty much the landing velocity of a parachutist on hitting the ground, and last time I checked, HSE accepted trained parachutists landing at those speeds as being safe.

The danger would really come from someone falling awkwardly / landing on their back etc, but that can be mitigated via other means than scaffolding in most situations.

 

[Gavin A]

Note these are legally enforceable Statutory Regulations, NOT guidelines or BS's. You can be JAILED for breaking them.

these are the relevant sections of the legislation that clearly indicate that falls from different heights should be assessed differently, rather than applying a blanket approach to anything that's not on ground level.

(3) Where work is carried out at height, every employer shall take suitable and sufficient measures to prevent, so far as is reasonably practicable, any person falling a distance liable to cause personal injury

Selection of work equipment for work at height
7.—(1) Every employer, in selecting work equipment for use in work at height, shall—
(b) take account of—
(iii) the distance and consequences of a potential fall;

 

[Worcester]

'nuff said : Health and safety in roof work

 

[jerriais]

Back to the original post, here's some classics from the website of another local installer, what is it about Hampshire???

 

[Worcester]

Back to the original post, here's some classics from the website of another local installer, what is it about Hampshire???

Too much money, too little sense ? Ok, Ya

 

[infinity]

i like the one with the rail over the velux! That could be another way of ensuring rail bonding is not necessary as access through the velux has been prevented… :thumbs_down:

 

[Worcester]

i like the one with the rail over the velux! That could be another way of ensuring rail bonding is not necessary as access through the velux has been prevented… :thumbs_down:

That's good one, - look closely and they've used hanger bolts, and I particularly like the wooden stability block at the top of the highest panel, that'll stop it wobbling in the wind

 

[Gavin A]

'nuff said : Health and safety in roof work

not really.

Which section of that document are you pointing to as backing up your previous statements?

I've quoted from the actual statutory document btw, you're now referencing a guide having previously mentioned the statutory regulations involved.

Anyway, from that guidance...

Appendix 7, Edge Protection
4 The decision on which type of edge protection to use must be made by a competent person who has all of the information about the work that is to
be undertaken. Similarly, the person who installs the edge protection must be
competent in its installation and dismantling.


5 Where roofs are steep and/or materials are large or heavy the risk is greater and
so a full scaffold may be the most appropriate. At the other end of the spectrum,
if the work is to be carried out on a non-fragile flat roof then a simple handrail, or
possibly a system using counterweights to support a handrail, will be adequate.

Consider using a system that is also appropriate to the duration of the work – an
access platform that requires minutes to position to carry out minor work may
involve less risk of working at height than a comprehensive scaffolding solution
which takes a large number of man hours to install and dismantle.

Which bit of this guidance do you think indicates that it's recommending a once size fits all approach to edge protection for all roof heights, types and steepnesses?

 

[infinity]

That's good one, - look closely and they've used hanger bolts, and I particularly like the wooden stability block at the top of the highest panel, that'll stop it wobbling in the wind

it shows initiative… :censored: