JIB Electrotechnical Certification Scheme (ECS) JIB infuriating!

[dellboy78]

Hi,
Am I the only one who finds the JIB infuriating? I have recently received my ECS card which proudly depicts me as a trainee electrician! I have C&G 2360 parts 1&2, C&G 2391, 2382, 2399. Apparently I'm not an electrican. I think it is ridiculous that I am expected to go back to college and start from scratch to get an NVQ in order to be recognised as an electrician on my ECS card. Why were the C&G courses still being offered if they were no good? What a waste of time and money! I'm not fussed about being an 'approved electrician' but 'electrician' would be nice! I'm embarrassed to show anyone my ECS card as it has TRAINEE written in big red letters on it. Is there any other way for people in my situation? There must be hundreds of others like me. They could at least offer some sort of bridging course to bring older qualifications into line.

Cheers

 

[vernam616]

I dont see why they cant just be a statutory set of qualifications, serving an apprentiship alongside them and then you become qualified

As far as im aware if you aint got nvq3 you aint qualified and cant really call yourself an electrician, i went out of my way and studyed nvq3 so why shouldnt anyone else?

In fairness i do know lads who are really good at doing practical aspects of the job however they have to be told what gos where etc... , being and electrician is about understanding why it gos there and if its safe to do so

 

[DurhamSparky]

My point to the JIB was...

I studied an Engineering Apprenticeship with RN,
Hold 2382,2377,2391, NVQ 3 Btec Level 3, HV AP Qualification.

I have been i the Engineering/Electrical/Nuclear Trade since 2003 have TMIET registration with IET and still im a labourer!! lol............

 

[vernam616]

I see your point, even more reason to bring statutory quals in

 

[DurhamSparky]

Jib sux!!!

 

[Guest55]

...... i think the biggest issue here is people are worried they wont get a gold card back just like the OP and thus shying away from applying

^^This.
Nail on head.
It pleases me greatly that its tough to get the gold one otherwise all the 5 week wonders will be waving them around.
Makes to easier to spot the time served pro's. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[DurhamSparky]

and explain why i can get one...!!

 

[alarm man]

^^This.
Nail on head.
It pleases me greatly that its tough to get the gold one otherwise all the 5 week wonders will be waving them around.
Makes to easier to spot the time served pro's. :smilewinkgrin:

you dont need a jib card to go alone doing domestics,a Electrical Trainee doesnt need one

 

[Guest55]

Ask JIB.
Only they know why you didnt meet their criteria.
And it is possible to get the gold card without the nvq3 , my route was industry assessed by my former employers whom provided references.

 

[alarm man]

and explain why i can get one...!!

this is where it falls down a bit,id prefer tmiet after my name than jib,someone with the right quals should automaticaly qualify for jib status imo

 

[Guest55]

you dont need a jib card to go alone doing domestics,a Electrical Trainee doesnt need one

Never said it was needed to do domestic , just that a Electrical Trainee wont get one after his part p course lol.

 

[DurhamSparky]

oh i know why!! cause they idiots lol...! want city and guilds certs...!

oh well never stopped me getting where i need to get...! £35 in my pocket as well lol...!

 

[alarm man]

Never said it was needed to do domestic , just that a Electrical Trainee wont get one after his part p course lol.

and so they shouldnt,but you have lads like ds who lets face it is more than qualified for electrical work,(which gets me onto another thing that electrical work is just confined to domestic properties like it seems to be) than most of us, gets treated like a Electrical Trainee,if were to make the jib the place for real sparks you cant dismiss people with the quals to keep it that way and keep the chancers out

 

[DurhamSparky]

thanks bud!

 

[Guest55]

oh i know why!! cause they idiots lol...! want city and guilds certs...!

oh well never stopped me getting where i need to get...! £35 in my pocket as well lol...!

I'd guess its because your Btec is a solely classroom based qual while C&G has on-site skills training , totally different IMO.
So stop with the tantrums like the kid who didnt get the ice cream lol.

 

[alarm man]

I'd guess its because your Btec is a solely class based qual while C&G has on-site skills training , totally different IMO.
So stop with the tantrums like the kid who didnt the ice cream lol.

to be fair biff being an electrician isnt just about site work and tray conduit etc,being a spark is about all aspects of electrical work from domestic to whatever,you have time served sparks who have only done domestic,you have time served sparks who have only worked in the shipyards but a good spark should be able to turn his hand to all aspects of work,he wont be a master of it all but he will quickly learn