Junction boxes

[andekoch]

I agree with pennywise, I dont list my 'wago' boxes as departures. I also see them as more reliable than the average cripm joint forrthe reasons in another post, poor crimps, tools etc.

In my opinion the departures box is for things that really need highlighting. If this is the only departure then fair enough as it at least lets others know that there are junction boxes somewhere.

 

[JUD]

Page 362 BRB.

At the bottom-left of the page in a box.

Junction box to BS EN 60670-22 or BS 6220.
Junction boxes with screw terminals must be accessible for inspection, testing and maintenance or, alternatively, use maintenance-free terminals / connections (Regulation 526.3)

 

[Risteard]

I agree with pennywise, I dont list my 'wago' boxes as departures. I also see them as more reliable than the average cripm joint forrthe reasons in another post, poor crimps, tools etc.

In my opinion the departures box is for things that really need highlighting. If this is the only departure then fair enough as it at least lets others know that there are junction boxes somewhere.

Departures are only permitted where they offer at least the same degree of safety as compliance with the Regulations. So something which was not to the standard of the Regulations would not be permitted as a departure and therefore should not be recorded on the relevant certificate.

 

[JUD]

It doesn't mention that they are for the use as a maintenance free connection

I'm used to screw connections - how secure is your clamping system?

The WAGO Cage Clamp® and PushWire clamping systems guarantee gastight, maintenance-free connections every time. Our connectors incorporating these proven technologies have been used in industrial and building services applications worldwide. The company's reputation is built on the high quality and proven performance of our products. For installers, this ensures complete peace of mind.

Wago Lever Connector 4.0mm 3 Pole x 50 by Wago

 

[waitees]

thanks fot all replies , what do you think is best to wire downlights ? with switch line

 

[cbw]

I dont like to use JBs, when I do.....bathroom wiring with fan, kitchen downlighters, if poss I like them to be accessible even though I have used maintainance free. That said not allways possible!

Enjoyed this thread, sorry if I put cat amoungst pigeons!

I wire downlights via previously mentioned Ashley junction box with a switch line and loop in/out, accessible through downlight hole.

 

[waitees]

how do you go about wiring a fan a s/l and feed if you do not use a jb ?

 

[nickblake]

All im going to sauy on the matter is that if they are not clipped and secured then they have to have strain reliefs as do the ashley junction boxes , and if they are in the loft they will be accesable by lifting the boards not like under a laminated floor ,

 

[nickblake]

From the lights SL PL N Cpc to a fan isolator then to a fan , oh and check the manufacturers specification as this may need to be fused at 3 amps

 

[bramboy]

ashley maintence free junction boxes can`t be used in insulation it says on the flap. There good for downlights in the loft then.

 

[pennywise]

Spoke to the IET today they have confirmed that there is a proposal for Maintenance free terminals to be listed in the new amendments within 526 as a maintenance free approved connection method. Just some info nothing else

 

[Risteard]

Spoke to the IET today they have confirmed that there is a proposal for Maintenance free terminals to be listed in the new amendments within 526 as a maintenance free approved connection method. Just some info nothing else

Which confirms what I am saying that they are currently a departure from the Regulations.

 

[pennywise]

Yes you can have that one, then until June

 

[Risteard]

Yes you can have that one, then until June

The Amendment won't come into force this June!

Only a draft for public comment.

 

[pennywise]

Jesus I know that and was assuming which I did correctly that you knew already, do you want me to put down the time as well next year or the time they run the new regs through the printing mill.