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Less battery life than the ones with just buttons, bigger screen to break.

On the plus, it's got BB6 for its operating system, better camera, more space, and Blackberry reliability.

Not sure if it can do 64 bit Outlook (a bug bear I may have mentioned!)......

I looked at it, but still think I'm going the iPhone route......over the BB I have, and keep the Desire for personal.


Is the 64 bit outlook bit a way to link to a normal outlook account? Please forgive my ignorence lol
 
Less battery life than the ones with just buttons, bigger screen to break.

On the plus, it's got BB6 for its operating system, better camera, more space, and Blackberry reliability.

Not sure if it can do 64 bit Outlook (a bug bear I may have mentioned!)......

I looked at it, but still think I'm going the iPhone route......over the BB I have, and keep the Desire for personal.


I been waiting for my ip4 for months now and keep getting fobbed off. I looked at the torch and quite liked it as it has a proper keyapad to use if you need to, over the ip4.

Just dont know what to go for.....e-mail & web browsing are top priorities really, and being able to phone people obviously.:p
 
emails an web, for the forum obviously, is all i'm in need of. Have read that many reviews and all say batteries are the main issue, not just the BB but most smart phones
 
Is the 64 bit outlook bit a way to link to a normal outlook account? Please forgive my ignorence lol

Essentially, yes.

Most "smartphones" now offer synchronisation with Outlook directly.......assuming you have the 32 bit version. Their "desktop" software will let you connect the phone to the computer, and will map the phone's contacts, diary, tasks and so forth to the corresponding folders you use in Outlook.

Essentially, the idea is you update one or the other, and the change is reflected on the other, after syncing it.

For me that's great - I get my email on phone and laptop anyway, but the time saved in putting contacts into both phone and PC is a killer. So to just do one or other,, is great.

However, lately, a lot of computers with Windows 7 take the 64 bit version of Office off the install disk, as 7 is (mostly) a 64 bit OS.

It seems that neither Android, or Blackberry have got to grips with this fact yet, and still only offer support, or connectivity to the 32 bit versions of Office.

You *can* roll back your Office and go with the 32 bit versions for now, but it's messy, and a a good few hours wasted in uninstalling office, and hoping everything works once you have the 32 bit version back on.

And typically, 32 bit versions of Office will not co-exist with 64 bit versions, so to roll back Outlook, you have to do the whole Office suite.

The only other way to snyc outlook and a phone is through MS Exchange on a server. Expensive.

ISTR there is a way of doing it through a Google account for Android phones, but to me, that's a bit like stripping away layers of security, and trusting Google to ALL my info, instead of just most of it.
 
I been waiting for my ip4 for months now and keep getting fobbed off. I looked at the torch and quite liked it as it has a proper keyapad to use if you need to, over the ip4.

Just dont know what to go for.....e-mail & web browsing are top priorities really, and being able to phone people obviously.:p

Found the easiest way to get an IP4 is to go to CarphoneWebwhore. They seem to have 'em in stock centrally most of the time. Black, 32Gb anyway.

As far as use goes, yes, battery life on most, the Bold 9700 I have will do a day of calls, emails, and a bit of browsing easily. The Desire (Android) doing the same, a couple of hours, but it is a capacitive touch screen, large too, and heavy on resources for all the bot on whistles - like bluetooth, GPS, WiFi and so on, so as with the IP4 switch 'em off when not using.

The HTC has natty little widgets like switches, which I have set up on one of the available seven screens you can slide to - so it's simply a case of flicking the virtual switch to turn these things on or off for me. I've found it isn't good to do that in the middle of a call though.......especially not the Bluetooth you're using to conduct the call.........

Web browsing on the Android is every bit as good (possibly better) than the IP4 - and you can pinch, zoom and all the rest of it with no problems, as well as auto turn the screen to landscape or portrait.

One of the key reasons I wanted the IP4 was to replace my iPod too in the car - for some reason, c.5500 tunes just don't fit on the Android, and keep the battery sane.
 
perhaps not the right thread to post into but what data allowance do you guys have on your contracts and how much data are you using. I am thinking of a 500MB data plan but not sure what that relates to in terms of emails and web browsing. I realise that downloading or streaming will kell the allowance so lets ignor that.
Am going to go iphone route (to replace my older blackberry) later this year, only gripe is the contact categorisation and searching/ filtering on the IP4 does not seem as good as I want it (circa 800 contacts so I dont remember the names or often the company just broadly what they do eg electrician, developer, plasterer etc).
 
perhaps not the right thread to post into but what data allowance do you guys have on your contracts and how much data are you using. I am thinking of a 500MB data plan but not sure what that relates to in terms of emails and web browsing. I realise that downloading or streaming will kell the allowance so lets ignor that.
Am going to go iphone route (to replace my older blackberry) later this year, only gripe is the contact categorisation and searching/ filtering on the IP4 does not seem as good as I want it (circa 800 contacts so I dont remember the names or often the company just broadly what they do eg electrician, developer, plasterer etc).

If you're going the IP4 route - it uses significantly more data than a BB will. that said, a 500MB contract should allow you plenty if just for email and the odd web page, making use of WiFi at home or hotspots where you can.

I have to say - if you're looking at the IP$, it's worth checking Tesco Mobile out just now too.

THey are offering an all you can eat minutes and texts, plus 1GB of data on a 12 month contract, 32Gb IP4, for £99 down and £45 a month - damn sure that's the way I'm going.

FWIW Tesco runs on the o2 network.
 
Think I will have a look at that currently paying £50 inc phone insurance for 1200 anytime minutes, unlimited txt, landline calls and 1GB of download per month on a 18month contract with vodafone :(
 
that looks very good bill. I will have a look now. I was looking at orange before but O2 should be ok as well. 12 mths is good as well.
 
i currently have the HTC Desire HD with 1000mins/1gb data/3000 texts from Virgin for 35 per month (runs on tmobile network) however the data i'm using approx 450mb a month on it that is plus my wifi at home too, so much easier to just get on the net when out and about now
 
just spoken to tesco and voicemail is not included in the minutes also you need to, apparantly, keep going into voicemail to resave messages if you want to keep them, they did not say how often but gave me the impression it was every day or 2. sounds like a con to me esp at 10p per min to access voicemail.

also had a look at a few other contracts and compared on a like for like spreadsheet. interestingly a better deal is to buy the phone from apple, at £615 and then take a sim only contract from tesco at £20 per month. carphone warehouse orange 18month contracts are also better value. I will look into business contracts later on and post my findings here, if I do it in the next few days.
 

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