Kevin please change careers before killing someone

[captaincaveman]

Hi,
If you're a spark, you're reading this, your name is Kevin, you work in the Manchester area and you did a job in Rusholme yesterday on lights that kept tripping the RCD - Please reconsider your career before you do serious damage.
It's forgivable that you were unable to diagnose an insulation fault with the lights and blamed it on a faulty RCD (though the customer said you thought it was both RCDs which should have made you think again). I presume you don't have the right equipment for insulation & RCD testing?
It's also forgivable taking the lights off the RCD as a tempary measure.
What isn't forgivable is taking the 1.5mm lighting circuit with an insulation fault on it, taking it off the 6A breaker and putting it directly on the main ccu switch protected only by the suppliers 100A fuse! To compound matters you didn't even put it on the consumer side. Instead putting it on the supply side so when the customer was getting a firework display last night - they couldn't even isolate the electrics!!!
I don't know how much current was going through the light fitting but even the copper had disintergrated.
I seriously believe if I hadn't attended at 1am this morning there wouldn't be a house still standing.

 

[Spoon]

milk choc is sickly.

Next you will be telling us you like Marmite....

 

[Spoon]

Stupid double posts....

 

[telectrix]

Next you will be telling us you like Marmite....

if it looks like shyte, feels like shyte, tastes like shyte, chances are it probably is shyte.

 

[Midwest]

Bournville, you pillock, not bovril..

Sometime my sarcasm is lost to the lessor mortals on this web site, me thinks someone's been on the juice before the sun has got passed the yardarm. I'm on catch up now

 

[Pete999]

Sometime my sarcasm is lost to the lessor mortals on this web site, me thinks someone's been on the juice before the sun has got passed the yardarm. I'm on catch up now

I'm on the 2nd bottle

 

[telectrix]

looks like i'm on catch up. had 2 beers, 3rd awaits the bottle opener.

 

[Midwest]

Crisps, way behind. Least I'm not challenging for an arm wrestle

 

[Midwest]

Echoes, echoes. When I watched these as a young lad, my Dad would say 'turn that racket off!' These days they look more like my Mum & Dad. Life's cruel over time;

 

[biggal5]

...does that "Kevin" guy work near Leeds aswell..?? had similar problem, drove 2 hours early Sunday morning to get greeted by fireworks display and burning smells...! should be reported asap even if family friend...

 

[telectrix]

Echoes, echoes. When I watched these as a young lad, my Dad would say 'turn that racket off!' These days they look more like my Mum & Dad. Life's cruel over time;

Guitar God
Guitar God
Guitar God
Guitar God

it's some of this i want played at my funeral. son has been instructed.

 

[tom porter]

The worst thing is leaving a known fault working with no protection.

How much did Kevin charge the client for the work as they should be chasing him for the money at least.

this guy should be locked up somewhere and the key threw away

 

[captaincaveman]

...does that "Kevin" guy work near Leeds aswell..?? had similar problem, drove 2 hours early Sunday morning to get greeted by fireworks display and burning smells...! should be reported asap even if family friend...

I'm thinking the thread went just slightly off topic for a minute then... Marmite, Dave gilmore vids? wtf, lmao!

Sorry biggal5, you were saying he should be reported? Not sure who to or who would care. My understanding is a competency scheme (not that he will belong to one) would require the customer to complain then they have to allow him to return to rectify it. We all know scheme providers aren't going to throw away paying members. Building control? They prob wouldn't do anything cos of lack of paperwork. Trading standards? Let's face it if trading standards were any use half the companies in the country would be out of business...
I say we start up our own Electrical vigilante group. We'll be like Kick---- and we can call ourselves something like Flash-men? Who's in?? (and who can think of a better name? one that doesn't make us sound like we're only dressed in macs standing on street corners..)

 

[DPG]

Jeez caveman, I think you've been drinking more than me. Good on yer!

 

[telectrix]

I'm thinking the thread went just slightly off topic for a minute then... Marmite, Dave gilmore vids? wtf, lmao!

Sorry biggal5, you were saying he should be reported? Not sure who to or who would care. My understanding is a competency scheme (not that he will belong to one) would require the customer to complain then they have to allow him to return to rectify it. We all know scheme providers aren't going to throw away paying members. Building control? They prob wouldn't do anything cos of lack of paperwork. Trading standards? Let's face it if trading standards were any use half the companies in the country would be out of business...
I say we start up our own Electrical vigilante group. We'll be like Kick---- and we can call ourselves something like Flash-men? Who's in?? (and who can think of a better name? one that doesn't make us sound like we're only dressed in macs standing on street corners..)

yeah, but,no but. just for a treat for all, turn up the vol. chill.still be kevins about for us to take the pi$$ out of tomorrow.:

 

[Mike Johnson]

Yep. Years ago H&S wasn't even a consideration, not so nowadays. Think the pendulum has now swung too far in the opposite direction.

According to the CDM 2015, I now have to complete a risk assessment when I go to Mrs Miggins house (doing a lot of work there recently?) to change her light bulbs (lamps to some). Madness I tell you, madness

Would not like to meet you on site, CDM is now revised, its 2017, anyone who does not keep up with legislation is as bad as the electrician in the OP's post, prior to 2017 a private residence did not come under the CDM legislation unless the work involved over five contractors or was to last over thirty days.

Incidentally the Health and Safety at work act is dated 1954 are you going back before that with you comment of it not being a consideration or just that you never considered it?

For your information you have to carry out a Hazard Analysis before you document a Risk Assessment.

Without knowing the correct process you are putting your client and any company you work for in direct contravention of the law and open to prosecution it may seem clever to poo poo this, but when you have to stand up in court and answer a prosecuting Barristers questions you want feel so smart.