Kitchen Cooker Isolation Switch, Dishwasher And Washing Machine Spurs

[domestic spark]

did i miss the boat?

 

[Chr!s]

My BRB is in the office mate is that the reg appertaining to accessories installed on to the fabric of a building

Yes malcolm that the reg

 

[domestic spark]

5.2.2 (i) should pref be mounted on the building fabric, and not in kitchen furniture. BANG!

 

[Chr!s]

malcolm any idea what chris is on about?

If i dont know what im going on about hows malcolm going yo know

 

[domestic spark]

5.2.2 (i) should pref be mounted on the building fabric, and not in kitchen furniture. BANG!​

 

[Chr!s]

5.2.2 (i) should pref be mounted on the building fabric, and not in kitchen furniture. BANG!

5.2.2 (i)?

Only Pref

 

[domestic spark]

CURTAINS chuckle chuckle

 

[malcolmsanford]

If i dont know what im going on about hows malcolm going yo know

lol....................like it. Wire It I appreciate your stance on this, and in many ways I agree, but that is your opinion and good on you for it. But fitting a FCU or a DP switch in a cupboard is accepted, if not the best practice and is done in many installations.

The bottom line to it is that as a designer you would not do it, as a designer I would not do it either, but if someone decides that it is the only option open to them then yes you can do it, as your interpreting that base unit secured to the wall as part of the fabric of the building. If the base unit caught fire then as the designer you would need to explain why you thought that was the best way to install it.

Put it another way, if you were doing a PIR would you code it?

 

[domestic spark]

i see what your saying and its been a good conversation i think wouldnt you agree, it was knocking around my head and im glad we could talk about it. YES, if i was designing it, and it was a NEW install i wouldnt do it.

HOWEVER, if 2 weeks later it became apparent something wasd missed off, and you did not want to damage cosmetics of the job, CUPBOARD all the way!!

 

[domestic spark]

and to be honest i prob wouldnt!

 

[Chr!s]

IEE Guidance note 1

C.2.5 Permanently connected equipment

Reg (537.5.1.3)

Permanently connected equipment such as built in washing machines, electric ovens,etc, is often connected to the supply by means of a plug and socket outlet located behind the appliance. A separate control switch need not to be installed provided that:

1. A functional switch is incorporated in the appliance, and the appliance is locally protected by a fuse to BS 1362, of a rating not exceeding 13 A, or

2. The circuit is protected by a circuit breaker of a rating not exceeding 16 A.

Regards chris

 

[malcolmsanford]

Yes and Chr!s is right that the definitive part of the reg is the word preferable, it's giving you the chance as the designer to install in a safe manor, but as you say sometimes you have to perhaps interpret things a little different.

 

[domestic spark]

IEE Guidance note 1

C.2.5 Permanently connected equipment

Reg (537.5.1.3)

Permanently connected equipment such as built in washing machines, electric ovens,etc, is often connected to the supply by means of a plug and socket outlet located behind the appliance. A separate control switch need not to be installed provided that:

1. A functional switch is incorporated in the appliance, and the appliance is locally protected by a fuse to BS 1362, of a rating not exceeding 13 A, or

2. The circuit is protected by a circuit breaker of a rating not exceeding 16 A. a dedicated circuit. ie, fridge freezer

Regards chris

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[domestic spark]

anyway goodnight chaps! its been emotional!