kitchen regs part 2 the sequel

[kilty55]

hi all,i posted here the other day finidng out about regs about plug positioning

im looking to keep up to date on regs so they are more clear and hoped you guys can help me out

i generally do bathroom fits but once ina blue moon we do a kitchen so i need to know as the sparks i have been using clearly never advised me very well

okay do any sockets of any kind need to be 300mm away from the sink area?or is it arms length

can we place sockets under the sink area or is this a nono due to it being a water area

dishwashers and washing machines can we put the plugs behind these items or must they be plugged into cupboards or under the kickplates?

extractor fans,do we need to provide an isolator switch somewhere to turn these off

is it possible/better idea to have a separate grid for all kitchen aplliances situated ina housing unit/tower unit?

do fridges/ovens/microwaves all have to be accesible via either cupboards,under kickers or on top of units?

thanks guys.....ps we are looking for a new spark from edinurgh/lothians for our future jobs anyone interested pm me please mostly spotlights/extractors in bathrooms and some kitchen work thanks

 

[tonys]

Best advice is to wait until you find the new spark.

 

[kilty55]

i would prefer to know if possible,im asking on here as i beleive this is THE place for the best info,i might not get a spark off here and may end up with bad advice again so waiting on a new spark isnt what im after im afraid

 

[tonys]

Google for an electrician, there's plenty out there looking for work.

 

[kilty55]

tony,i thought this was a forum for advice?

im looking for addvice mate infact you were recommended to me by tilers forum,one which i am a part off.

if the answer was to google a sparky then there would be no pint in the forum,im not being rude here mate but im just looking for advice and if a recceomended spark off here would like to take on my work id be delighted at the same time,i dont want to google electrician as i may end up with someone whos going to do a poor job for me ....again!

 

[telectrix]

ideal situation in kitchens..... under worktop appliances plugged in single socket per appliance, D/P isolator above worktop for each. cooker hood wired into socket or FCU. no sockets under sink if possible. forget grid switches for appliance isolation, nothing but trouble. sockets min 300mmm from sink, but further away if practicable. think that's everything, plenty of sparks on here in your area be glad to work with you, bit far for me though. good luck, Tel. ps. just read last 2 posts. ffs, guys, the op is looking for help and advice, he's quite capable of googling a ----pot on his own.

 

[kilty55]

thanks tel

 

[malcolmsanford]

Trix not sure where this post is going. Like me the other day we answered the majority of these questions from the OP but it don't seem to have sunk in.

We have told him that you can fit accessories in cupboards though not good practice, but as long as they accessible it can be done, we have told him it's normal practice to fit sockets behind appliances with switches either above the worktop which is preferable, but if it's in a cupboard then again back to the accessibilty.

Finally we all told him that if his Electrician decides what is accessible and signs of the paperwork then it is that electricians call.

I'm starting to veer towards the situation that either their is no electrcian involved at all or we have a troll, it is after all silly season.

 

[Guest123]

Trix not sure where this post is going. Like me the other day we answered the majority of these questions from the OP but it don't seem to have sunk in.

We have told him that you can fit accessories in cupboards though not good practice, but as long as they accessible it can be done, we have told him it's normal practice to fit sockets behind appliances with switches either above the worktop which is preferable, but if it's in a cupboard then again back to the accessibilty.

Finally we all told him that if his Electrician decides what is accessible and signs of the paperwork then it is that electricians call.

I'm starting to veer towards the situation that either their is no electrcian involved at all or we have a troll, it is after all silly season.

Kilty is definately not a troll, he is a regular and valued member of the tilers forums and has come on here to ask for advice. The tilers forums & plumbers & electricians & plasterers etc etc are all owned and run by Dan & Dave so no member of one forum would come trolling on another.



Gentlemen, if you cannot help with this enquiry.....dont bother posting!

 

[malcolmsanford]

Duly chastised and apologies to Kitty .................

 

[jeremy]

. ps. just read last 2 posts. ffs, guys, the op is looking for help and advice, he's quite capable of googling a ----pot on his own.[/QUOTE]

My sentiments exactly.

 

[IQ Electrical]

hi all,i posted here the other day finidng out about regs about plug positioning

im looking to keep up to date on regs so they are more clear and hoped you guys can help me out

i generally do bathroom fits but once ina blue moon we do a kitchen so i need to know as the sparks i have been using clearly never advised me very well

okay do any sockets of any kind need to be 300mm away from the sink area?or is it arms length

can we place sockets under the sink area or is this a nono due to it being a water area

dishwashers and washing machines can we put the plugs behind these items or must they be plugged into cupboards or under the kickplates?

extractor fans,do we need to provide an isolator switch somewhere to turn these off

is it possible/better idea to have a separate grid for all kitchen aplliances situated ina housing unit/tower unit?

do fridges/ovens/microwaves all have to be accesible via either cupboards,under kickers or on top of units?

thanks guys.....ps we are looking for a new spark from edinurgh/lothians for our future jobs anyone interested pm me please mostly spotlights/extractors in bathrooms and some kitchen work thanks

There is no BS7671 regulation regarding the 300mm distance for socket outlets but building regulations do make mention of this distance so I would stick with it.

Extract fans should always have a local isolator for mechanical maintenance, 3-pole if a timer function is incorporated.

I always use the grid system in new kitchens, I find it to be a much neater job-you choose a great tile scheme and then break it all up with fused connection units!

 

[kilty55]

thanks everyone for the advice,malcolm some of these questions i raied in my 2nd thread were not asked in my 1st one i was just really looking to make myself feel reassured for my next installation,i didnt do the electrics myself my good friend your lucky if i could wire a plug never mind a kitchen anyways great forum guys thanks for help