Kitchen Sockets.

[tedglen2]

Chasing holes for new sockets in kitchen. What height should they be to top of socket. i was thinking 1100mm to top of socket. i also would like to put one low down at 450mm for fridge and washer.

one more thing, how far should they be from cooker and sink.

Thanks eveyone !

 

[Taylortwocities]

Hi mate,

min height is 450mm to the bottom of the socket outlet from the finished floor level,...............................
I had an arsey BC control inspector once pull me on it, I usually allow an extra 50mm higher now if the floor is not finished.

If it was an addition to an existing installation he is talking out of his rear end.
The socket height thing is to do with disabled access (BR Part M). There's no point having sockets accessible at wheelchair height unless there are also ramps and doors wide enough for said wheelchair.

In any case the socket height stuff applies only in living areas and where the disabled may reasonably require access. Kitchens are excluded from this requirement. Can't see a disabled person needing access to a socket behind a washing machine:tongue3:

 

[Plonker 3]

Before quoting building regs, is this a new build or a existing installation having alterations carried out to it?

 

[trev]

Ted, like many others, I believe you are an enthusiastic DIYer which in some respects I applaud for your willingness to have a go however, some of the questions you ask on other threads reveal a lack of knowledge which I find worrying, generally speaking electricians are cheaper and less traumatic than funerals. If you are doing this yourself at least pay us the courtesy of being honest about it. You should be aware by now that there is a lot more to the trade than a few cables and a few accessories, we have to be able to prove that what we install is fit for it's intended purpose and is compliant with not only the wiring regulations but the building regulations in general.
If I'm wrong about you being a DIYer and the electrician is indeed supervising you from whatever distance then I apologise unreservedly.

 

[spark 68]

If it was an addition to an existing installation he is talking out of his rear end.
The socket height thing is to do with disabled access (BR Part M). There's no point having sockets accessible at wheelchair height unless there are also ramps and doors wide enough for said wheelchair.

In any case the socket height stuff applies only in living areas and where the disabled may reasonably require access. Kitchens are excluded from this requirement. Can't see a disabled person needing access to a socket behind a washing machine:tongue3:

New Build mate,

I did the heights correct, and then the client changed the specs on the flooring and this changed the FFL.
They were about 10mm too low! FFS!, you know some BCI's are little Hitler's, he let it go in the end but whinged at the client and therefore me no end.

 

[tedglen2]

Its an ex council house. Was just going to channel existing circuit into walls but it has now turned into a full rewire and new consumer unit

 

[Plonker 3]

Well in that case you can put the sockets and switches at whatever height you so wish unless it is specified to comply with DDA requirements.

 

[tedglen2]

i am tryng to do as much as i can myself. but the eletrican seems to be so laid back !!!

 

[RISElectrical]

urrrrrrrrrrggghhhhhh I give up on threads like this... If your going to ask our opinion at least be honest as to why you need it.

 

[tedglen2]

why would i lie mate ? This is going to get signed off. i am not that stupid !!!!!! eletrician has agreed that i chase the holes and feed wire through. he will come and fit new CU and put sockets on !!!!!!

 

[RISElectrical]

If you look back through your posts on this thread it just jumps from 1 thing to another and lends itself to give the impression that all is not what it seems, that's all. If I am wrong then so be it. I do think this electrician needs to be advising you and supervising you a little more closely but hey ho.

My apologies if I have offended you but have a read of the thread and see if you can empathise with my view.

 

[tedglen2]

Yes it does seem like I don’t have a clue ! or maybe I have picked a right nutter to do the final job!. He does not seem to be advising much, I think he would rather the whole job and not me doing the chasing etc.

 

[Taylortwocities]

, I think he would rather the whole job and not me doing the chasing etc.

If it were me that would be my view too. Customers doing some of the work/providing their own materials etc is very rarely a recipe for saving money. You probably aren't paying him any consultancy fees for asking him for advice, so every time you call him up its costing HIM money..

He's probably got the view,
"Well, if he thinks he knows enough to do it himself then he can just get on with it".

 

[1shortcircuit]

Yes it does seem like I don’t have a clue ! or maybe I have picked a right nutter to do the final job!. He does not seem to be advising much, I think he would rather the whole job and not me doing the chasing etc.

To be honest I would be happy for a client to do all the donkey work (chasing/holes in joists etc) but that is where it would end and there would be strict instruction on exactly where and what to do.

I hope for your sake he's not misinformed you which could lead to a structural issue.

What area are you in? It sounds like you could do with input from one of our ever helping members. I can't help but think one way or another this may end up in tears.... at the least

:thumbsup

 

[tedglen2]

to be honest, i think you are right. i have dug my self a hole, i just trying to get out of it now!!!

 

[tedglen2]

from Swansea. and could do with a decent quote to be honest