Labour defeated.....

[UNG]

Going to uni is about bettering oneself .

I have often been told by people who have degrees totally unrelated to their career choice tha going to uni proves you have an ability to learn (my cousin has a degree in bio chemistry and works as a insolvency accountant)

I don't feel I missed out going to uni and I am comfortable with the professional choices I taken over the years. I am considering doing a degree just for the piece of paper to stop some people looking down their nose at me, the difference is when they have a problem that needs fixing they call me to sort it as their knowledge falls short of the mark

 

[accordfire]

I have often been told by people who have degrees totally unrelated to their career choice tha going to uni proves you have an ability to learn (my cousin has a degree in bio chemistry and works as a insolvency accountant)

I don't feel I missed out going to uni and I am comfortable with the professional choices I taken over the years. I am considering doing a degree just for the piece of paper to stop some people looking down their nose at me, the difference is when they have a problem that needs fixing they call me to sort it as their knowledge falls short of the mark

Sounds like typical uni justification. The fact is any assessment will prove you can learn. That's really the whole basis of NVQ type assessments.

My brother is a bit like that - he's studied the weirdest things over the years, ended up with a degree in economics, and I can't see how, for the life of me, that's useful to what he does for a living - effectively being a sales director in a builder's merchants - which job he had prior to the degree.

Then again, no real idea why I worked for my BA - other than I figured Business Studies with Accounting might help me run my business - again, no - common sense really does that, mostly, when I can find any.

 

[UNG]

That's really the whole basis of NVQ type assessments.

NVQ's annoy me as much as the guy with the wrong ladder, I always look at them with the alternative meaning

Then again, no real idea why I worked for my BA - other than I figured Business Studies with Accounting might help me run my business - again, no - common sense really does that, mostly, when I can find any.

Pity there is no degree awarded for common sense may be it's a new course they could run at these uni's

 

[accordfire]

NVQ's annoy me as much as the guy with the wrong ladder, I always look at them with the alternative meaning



Pity there is no degree awarded for common sense may be it's a new course they could run at these uni's

Yup - had my rant about NVQs the other day - to my mind they are at best assessments, and not qualifications. Not a fan of the way they've taken over what most of us already had, as apprentices one way and another, and glorified it into some kind of mecca.

IMO, theory and application are two distinct areas, and any good electrician needs BOTH, in balance. It seems a simple matter to me that there is a world of difference between the guy who can run in cables and install devices according to a plan, and the guy who understands WHY he is doing that, and what to do if theory and application disagree. We all used to be able to do that, but these days, a lad will simply stop, pick up the phone, and comment that "you can't do that - can't get that cable through that wall - what do YOU want me to do about that?"

Electricity, like fire, like many other skilled trades, IMHO, should never, ever, ever, have gone down the dumbing down route.

And how true your words - we need a uni course in common sense, and they produce a new course in Lady sodding Gaga........I firmly believe the lunatics are now totally in charge of the assylum, after all. Pink Floyd was right. Lol.

 

[alarm man]

The new system will be far closer to 'means testing' than the previous!

as in if you can pay 'means' you go,if you cant 'means' you dont..

 

[k.k]

as in if you can pay 'means' you go,if you cant 'means' you dont..

Yes Mate. Removing the humour.. thats what it will 'mean' to a lot of people. Still, not to worry , im alright. No..?

 

[IQ Electrical]

as in if you can pay 'means' you go,if you cant 'means' you dont..

You do know that the Browne report that started all of this was commissioned by the previous labour government?

FAQ :
BBC News - Q&A: University funding

 

[k.k]

The thing with having allegiance with either one political party or another, kind of binds us into having to accept all that they may do, even when some of their actions may make us question our beliefs in them.
Thats one of my issues with political parties. All the good intention in the world will never be enough to accomadate every single person..and make them happy..to offer them the lifestyle requirements they may want or need. I like to think im more Humanitarian than political. Not to a point where i give it all away, but at the same time , have values Different to todays current values..Money.
Someone told me that the world revolves around money. Money and power (and the Abuse of sometimes)
Money & power (and the abuse of, sometimes ) If im not wrong is the 'reason' why this country is in this economic mess.. look at the bankers , Look at any government. Who's Controlling who ??
Still not to worry, im alrite... no ?