Labour Leadership

[telectrix]

A lot of what you say makes sence, however one thing, remember if it were not for us in the 1940s we would all be speaking German, we need to stand up to lunatics, ISIS are lunatics, so lets get in there and kick the shi$e out of them in their back door.

good job your jeremy corblimey ain't in charge then.

 

[derek]

A lot of what you say makes sence, however one thing, remember if it were not for us in the 1940s we would all be speaking German, we need to stand up to lunatics, ISIS are lunatics, so lets get in there and kick the shi$e out of them in their back door.

I think you could say that without the Russians we'd all be speaking German, from what I've heard about the war on the Eastern Front it was that which either broke, or was a massive contribution to the defeat of the Third Reich.

 

[telectrix]

I think you could say that without the Russians we'd all be speaking German, from what I've heard about the war on the Eastern Front it was that which either broke, or was a massive contribution to the defeat of the Third Reich.

true. russia's contribution was only exceeded by that of john wayne. :30:

 

[Guest77]

good job your jeremy corblimey ain't in charge then.

I am not Jeremy fan Tel, I am one of the 49.8% of the Labour party members who voted against him, I am seriously concidering voting for an independant candidate in the next general election should Jeremy still be at the helm in our party.

 

[Guest77]

I think you could say that without the Russians we'd all be speaking German, from what I've heard about the war on the Eastern Front it was that which either broke, or was a massive contribution to the defeat of the Third Reich.

I disagree, even without the russians we would have won through in the end, the Nukes dropped on Japan would have been dropped on Germany first.

 

[sean_ork]

The old new labour is dead (finally) - long live the new new labour.

For what it's worth, I think JC is a complete breath of fresh air to this Country's politics, he doesn't have the media savy smoothness of what most people assume of "politicians" - but that's all part of our problem, we've forgotten what a good politician is.

Its not what you look like, its not how articulate you are at fending off questions, its not what you say you'll do - its what you actually do that's the real measure of a politicians worth.

 

[andyb]

I am not Jeremy fan Tel, I am one of the 49.8% of the Labour party members who voted against him, I am seriously concidering voting for an independant candidate in the next general election should Jeremy still be at the helm in our party.

You mean 40.5% who did not have him as 1st preference.
He polled 59.5%

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Perhaps that 40.5% should join a party more in touch with their ideals and aspirations?

 

[andyb]

Perhaps that 40.5% should join a party more in touch with their ideals and aspirations?

That depends on what their 'ideals and aspirations' are Spin.

I'd like to think they are the same as the party as a whole.

 

[Midwest]

I disagree, even without the russians we would have won through in the end, the Nukes dropped on Japan would have been dropped on Germany first.

My memory of the WWII is a little bit hazy at this point. Think the ----'s Blitzkrieg'd thru Europe and stopped at the Channel and for some reason then decided to turn around to the Russians. Albeit the Battle of Britain caused them to pause, OP Sea lion was abandoned, Hitler's main campaign was Barbarossa. Britain stood firm during those difficult months but to say 'we would've won the war' downplays the significance of the east theatre.

 

[Guest77]

Perhaps that 40.5% should join a party more in touch with their ideals and aspirations?

We don't need too, I feel we lost touch during the post milliband era and went silly, some lunatics went for Jeremy, a lot of others jumped on the band wagon due to the bad press New labour got and we are where we are, we will bounce back, It will only take one strong new candidate and the party will soon get back where it belongs, in the Blair type policies which won us 3 elections.

 

[Guest77]

The old new labour is dead (finally) - long live the new new labour.

For what it's worth, I think JC is a complete breath of fresh air to this Country's politics, he doesn't have the media savy smoothness of what most people assume of "politicians" - but that's all part of our problem, we've forgotten what a good politician is.

Its not what you look like, its not how articulate you are at fending off questions, its not what you say you'll do - its what you actually do that's the real measure of a politicians worth.

I couldn't be farther from you politically even though we support the same party, Going far left will finish us, we need to get in touch with modern britain, Jeremy is a buffoon.

 

[andyb]

I couldn't be farther from you politically even though we support the same party, Going far left will finish us, we need to get in touch with modern britain, Jeremy is a buffoon.

We don't need too, I feel we lost touch during the post milliband era and went silly, some lunatics went for Jeremy, a lot of others jumped on the band wagon due to the bad press New labour got and we are where we are, we will bounce back, It will only take one strong new candidate and the party will soon get back where it belongs, in the Blair type policies which won us 3 elections.

Bad day MDJ?
In 2 sentences you've called me a lunatic (plus about 1/4 million others) and called the leader of the opposition a buffoon.
With debating skills like that maybe you should be standing yourself.:cheesy:

 

[GMES]

Bring back the king I say

 

[Guest77]

Bad day MDJ?
In 2 sentences you've called me a lunatic (plus about 1/4 million others) and called the leader of the opposition a buffoon.
With debating skills like that maybe you should be standing yourself.:cheesy:

I would never call you a lunatic Andy, a "Ahole" maybe :lips: