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I'm not going to be happy with the re-introduction of right to buy given that we now have a huge shortage of council houses since most of the old stock went into the private sector last time round. Of course, if all the sale proceeds were ring-fenced to pay for replacement stock...aye, right!

The whole concept of council housing as we know it today is a totally unfair nonsense ! All funded by the jolly old, hard working tax payer !! The problem is that once you get your council house, you have it for life ! Regardless of how much you earn or whether you need it or not.

A classic example is the now deceased union firebrand Bob Crowe... he had a very nice council house and was paid something like £150k pa !! He refused to give it up to someone who needed it...

Or... one of the problems with the aftermath of Grenfell Tower was that they didn't know who was living in there because there were so many flats sub-let ! That's people who are lucky enough to be given a cheap flat rental in a nice part of town... who choose to live somewhere else and make money out of the jolly old hard working tax payer again !!

If they charged council housing at market rent, then upped the housing benefit to compensate, you'd solve the problem...
 
I'm worried about the proposal to build a million new council houses a week, or whatever they said...
Who is going to build them?
Will they be built to a very low budget?
Do we even have enough builders for this?
Will BC check them all?
Will BC allow even lower standards so they can be kept within budget?
Will I, as a non-electrician, get the contract for wiring them, cos I will be much cheaper than you proper sparks?
Seriously, I can't believe there are enough qualified electricians out there to support such a proposed building campaign, so who will wire all these new houses?
Obviously, no problem finding enough plumbers...
You make it clear in your first sentence that you have no idea how many houses they plan to build Pirate, then go on to get yourself stressed over something that you don’t know.

For your information it’s 1 million houses over a decade, getting to 150 000 per year after the first term.

Hope this helps.
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I more worried about the right to buy at 50% after two years or whatever it is. Might be good investment for some aspiring property investor. Or give up work, ask for a council house, keep it then flog it. Nice little earner.
You needn’t worry Midwest, Labour are ending right to buy. Happy now?
 
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You needn’t worry Midwest, Labour are ending right to buy. Happy now?

No I'm not. Lib Dems keep shoving flyers through my letter box, telling me to vote for them. Flipping cheek, when they aim to stop Brexit. Last letter that came through, I put return to sender, & scribbled BREXIT in black crayon, all over it. Can't wait for one them to knock the door, they'll get it both barrels.

Another thing, free broadband tish. Next they'll be offering free Sky tv.
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Don't count yer Chickens mate, stranger things have happened, just look at Trump,

He does seem bullet proof. I gave him 6 months, he's still here 4 years later.
 
lib-dems... rolls-royce ideas on a push-bike income.

labour ... push-bike ideas on a rolls-royce income.

SNP. .... why did we nick all the stones out of hadrian's wall.
 
No I'm not. Lib Dems keep shoving flyers through my letter box, telling me to vote for them. Flipping cheek, when they aim to stop Brexit. Last letter that came through, I put return to sender, & scribbled BREXIT in black crayon, all over it. Can't wait for one them to knock the door, they'll get it both barrels.

Another thing, free broadband tish. Next they'll be offering free Sky tv.
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He does seem bullet proof. I gave him 6 months, he's still here 4 years later.
Tell me about it and I'm a Brit, don't know what the US contingent think of him" I'm friends with Megawatt , but out of decency I won't ask him, it's their Country after all, nothing to do with us or does it???????????
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lib-dems... rolls-royce ideas on a push-bike income.

labour ... push-bike ideas on a rolls-royce income.

SNP. .... why did we nick all the stones out of hadrian's wall.
Labour JC and DA soy no mooooore as Monty Python would say
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Tell me about it and I'm a Brit, don't know what the US contingent think of him" I'm friends with Megawatt , but out of decency I won't ask him, it's their Country after all, nothing to do with us or does it???????????
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Labour JC and DA soy no mooooore as Monty Python would say
JC alias Swampy where on earth did Labour come up with this idiot as a Leader?
 
they had good models with neil pillock and michael foot and mouth.
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screaming lord sutch commited suicide when he realised he'd never get in power. wishfull thinking that jeremy cor'blimey does the same?????
 
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they had good models with neil pillock and michael foot and mouth.
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screaming lord sutch commited suicide when he realised he'd never get in power. wishfull thinking that jeremy cor'blimey does the same?????
Contact Phil the Greek, he will sort it.
 
All the mainstream politicians are a bunch of lying barstewards, in itself not particularly worrying.

What is worrying however is what usually happens when the public lose all faith in mainstream politicians.
 
jc was in stoke ths week while i was at my son's for a few days. he was trying to tell pottery workers that their jobs would go if brexit happened. one guy shouted out that a sagger makers bottom knocker can find work knocking off politicians.
 
All the mainstream politicians are a bunch of lying barstewards, in itself not particularly worrying.

What is worrying however is what usually happens when the public lose all faith in mainstream politicians.
Bring on the revolution. nothing but a bunch of self financing parasites. vote for em???????. get JC in number 10 and he would turn the rest of Downing Street into a Commune for his unwashed Mates. and DA of course
 
andyb, I'm obliged to you for that clarification over the number of council houses to be built. I suspect most readers recognised the hyperbole, and in effect it matters little. The suggested building programme is far too ambitious for the available workforce and budget.
Traditionally, council housing was built to a good standard, partly because they built better houses anyway, and partly because it was important to minimise the cost of ongoing maintenance, thus saving the taxpayers' purse. Ex-council houses in my area were much sought after due to the much larger room sizes, the better build quality, gardens, and proximity to local services.
Following the crash in 2008 some "mainstream" house builders tried to offload excess stock onto local authorities, but they didn't want these flashy, crappy boxes, as they were in the main of poor build quality, and just scraping through BCs standards. Ongoing maintenance was a big issue here, so few LAs took the bait, preferring to get smaller builders to undertake small developments for them, of better quality and with a smaller profit margin. This worked quite well, as the small firms needed the work and could keep going on tighter margins, not having the heavy overheads of the large companies, and without shareholder pressure.
All I was really saying was that Labour's manifesto is completely unrealistic as to the possibility of building so many houses, funding those builds, finding the land, finding the labour to construct and fit them out to a decent standard. If they release greenbelt land and let any Tom Dick or Harry bash them up, we will end up with huge estates of substandard houses that will come back to haunt us in years to come.
Mainstream builders will not be interested as there is no real profit in it for them-they like a profit from every unit right away. The government will get a return, of course, but it will be spread over a very long period.
 
think I will have to stand. here is mymanifesto.....

1. force brexit through , deal or no deal.
2 scrap HS2. nobody wants a rail line through their back garden up here.
3. legalise all drugs on prescription (no free ones. £30 ish a pop). this will rduce drug related crime and make the NHS profitable.
4. Cut tax on beer and smokes.
5. Reduce VAT to 10%
6. impose a levy of £1 on every comment made on facebook to offset the vat reduction
7. Ban timber frame houses, dry lining, and "throw it up as cheap as possible".
8. make Liverpool the country's capital and re-purpose westminster , downing st, and half of london to homeless hostels.
9. would also propose the summary execution of plumbers, but i think that might be going too far.
 

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