Learner drivers allowed on motorways after law change

[telectrix]

learners on the motorway, whatever next. women drivers? oops, they already done it. hogging middle lane while texting and applying make-up.

 

[Darkwood]

I don't like this idea at all, putting a hesitant sometimes terrified learner on a motorway where lorries are hitting 60mph and requiring extensive stopping distances it is only a matter of time before we see a tragedy with multiple deaths.
I think any new drivers must pass the standard test and then clock up some road experience before venturing on the motorway, when they feel confident with there driving to do so then they contact there instructor to do a motorway awareness course which may not require a further test module but must be signed off by the instructor that he feels they are now competent.
This has added advantages for anyone who lives remotely that do not wish to use motorways that they simple don't need to take motorway lessons and will suit many situations.
The existing system has worked fine for years where if you don't like motorways you simply don't go on them and your not thrown on them at you least experienced point.. I hope I am wrong but this sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

 

[Bobster]

I don't like this idea at all, putting a hesitant sometimes terrified learner on a motorway where lorries are hitting 60mph and requiring extensive stopping distances it is only a matter of time before we see a tragedy with multiple deaths.
I think any new drivers must pass the standard test and then clock up some road experience before venturing on the motorway, when they feel confident with there driving to do so then they contact there instructor to do a motorway awareness course which may not require a further test module but must be signed off by the instructor that he feels they are now competent.
This has added advantages for anyone who lives remotely that do not wish to use motorways that they simple don't need to take motorway lessons and will suit many situations.
The existing system has worked fine for years where if you don't like motorways you simply don't go on them and your not thrown on them at you least experienced point.. I hope I am wrong but this sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

This system has been around for the past 10 yeas as I know of. Called pass plus. My friends kids got discount on the insurance premiums through completing it.

 

[Darkwood]

So why the change then if we had a suitable system in place?

 

[Adam W]

This system has been around for the past 10 yeas as I know of. Called pass plus. My friends kids got discount on the insurance premiums through completing it.

Pass Plus was around when I was learning to drive, 20 years ago.
Some insurance companies offer discounted premiums, others don't recognise it at all.

 

[ruston]

Only they have passed their test first as I understand it.
The new proposal is with an approved instructor too,also with dual controlled vehicle , but I am still not convinced it is a good idea either

 

[elsparko]

In my humble opinion rural driving is far more dangerous than motorway driving, judging by the nutters that tear around Northumberland 's lanes on four wheels and two.

its the plonkers doddling along at 30 on b roads that cause disasters, come round a corner and theres a pensioner near enough stopped on the road

 

[Bobster]

So why the change then if we had a suitable system in place?

I don't know.

First I've heard of it. I don't live in the UK anymore. I do know it was more expensive than normal lessons.

 

[telectrix]

sometimes on B roads it's not safe to exceed 30mph. you go round a bend and suddenly there's a huge John Deere tractor with a trailer full of shyte filling the road from 1 side to the other., 20 ft. in front of you. try stopping in 20 ft. @ 5o mph.

 

[Bobster]

its the plonkers doddling along at 30 on b roads that cause disasters, come round a corner and theres a pensioner near enough stopped on the road

Then you're in the wrong. What if it was a cow in the road, or a fallen tree? You are not driving to conditions. If you can't see round a corner far enough, so that someone stopped round the corner of it is going to cause you an issue you're driving too fast.

 

[telectrix]

had it a few weeks ago. narrow road, dark, transit coming at me doing about 50, i was at around 30. smashed my driver's door mirror off. luckily, replacement was only £20 off ebay. i just hope his transit was a newish one with a £500 bill to fix his mirror.

 

[ruston]

@elsparko . 6 people killed on the road to where I live over the past years . Four of them were youths(in the past4 years) that lost control ,the other two were pensioners that were ploughed into by a defective tipper wagon

 

[elsparko]

Then you're in the wrong. What if it was a cow in the road, or a fallen tree? You are not driving to conditions. If you can't see round a corner far enough, so that someone stopped round the corner of it is going to cause you an issue you're driving too fast.

my 16 inch brake discs are more than capable of reacting, are the piddly little bits of tin for brakes on a 1,1 up to the same standard?

im fairly certain if there was a cow or a tree, id just stop/slow down and go around it.

if your reflexes are so bad you need to drive at 30mph on b roads then you should have license revoked.

 

[Bobster]

my 16 inch brake discs are more than capable of reacting, are the piddly little bits of tin for brakes on a 1,1 up to the same standard?

im fairly certain if there was a cow or a tree, id just stop/slow down and go around it.

if your reflexes are so bad you need to drive at 30mph on b roads then you should have license revoked.

Well Mr Mcrae, a slow moving car infront shouldn't bother you then. Just slam on going round every corner on B roads and go around them.

Most of the B roads near where I lived in the UK were single track with overgrown hedgerows either side. No visibility and nowhere to evade. 30mph in those places was plenty.

 

[elsparko]

Well Mr Mcrae, a slow moving car infront shouldn't bother you then. Just slam on going round every corner on B roads and go around them.

Most of the B roads near where I lived in the UK were single track with overgrown hedgerows either side. No visibility and nowhere to evade. 30mph in those places was plenty.

thats a different type of b road, im meaning the two lane b roads

the roads up through the the highlands, you can see for miles, why restrict cars to 60mph on those roads, technology has improved since the speed limits were introduced, so shirley adapt them with the technology? obviously dont go speeding around residential areas, but country roads , why bloody not..