LED floodlight (with PIR) required override facility

[Skimpy Wan]

Hi,

I've got a customer who has a LED floodlight, with PIR, who requires an override facility, rather than being on the normal 90 second time delay.

As the fitting is wired in the manufacturers 3 core flex, how can this be overridden?

It has been wired in 3-core & earth but, obviously, only the Line, Neutral & Earth are currently being used (so a spare core). I was wanting to use a 3-way rocker switch, but still not sure how to get the switch wire direct to the LED fitting and bypass the PIR.

 

[joehat]

No pictures or description so how would we even give you an answer.

Hire someone who's competent?? Just a suggestion.

 

[Skimpy Wan]

Okay ....

So I take the fitting apart and then solder the PC with the switch live then?!

 

[joehat]

Pc being?

 

[Skimpy Wan]

As the fitting only has a line, Neutral and earth (in a 3-core flex) where is my switch line?

 

[joehat]

Which is it 3 core or 4 core flex??

You need to put a lot lot more info and pictures really.
Even then I feel that you need to hire a local honest sparky!!

 

[Andy78]

Does the fitting have a built in over ride function ? This is very common to find and is usually activated by cutting and restoring power to the fitting within a few seconds, usually with a standard one way switch.

 

[Skimpy Wan]

Which is it 3 core or 4 core flex??

You need to put a lot lot more info and pictures really.
Even then I feel that you need to hire a local honest sparky!!

You taking the ----?!

 

[joehat]

Does the customer require a perminate override or temp, as Andy says a temp override 8/10 times include it if you flick switch on off on within 2 secs

 

[joehat]

You taking the ----?!

No you say it's 3 core with earth and then you say it's 3 core standard which is 2core and earth essentially

 

[Skimpy Wan]

Old halogen floods allowed for the facility, however LEDs do not!

Having contacted wholesalers and manufacturers they've stated that it isn't possible .. hence my query as I've done in care homes and residential properties with non-PIR fittings, wired from a photocell, but not a manufactured LED and integrated PIR (customers fitting was from LEDHUT)!

 

[Skimpy Wan]

6243Y from the FCU to the PIR.

PIR has a 3-core (L, N & E) flex to fitting.

PCB (sorry auto correct stated PC) switched the fitting from PIR.

Customer wants an override switch to enable them to have the light on for longer than 90 seconds when they need to load / unload the car.

In the normal setting (PIR controlled) the time delay is set for 90 seconds.

The 1-2 seconds on / off switching doesn't work on LED integrated fitting (as per manufactures) so I wanted some advice from others that have managed to rectify with with the use of a 3-way rocker switch (Top = PIR, only; Middle = OFF; Bottom = Manual overide).

Maybe I should speak to some competent individual's who are prepared to assist me Jo?!

 

[telectrix]

you need to open the fitting terminal box. find out the switched L from the PIR, and connect your override core there.

 

[davesparks]

If the manufacturer has stated its not possible, which is fairly obvious from the fact it has only a 3 core flex, then it is not possible.
You need to get a different fitting which does have the S/L out terminal or else fit a separate PIR and light fitting.

 

[Andy78]

Old halogen floods allowed for the facility, however LEDs do not!

Having contacted wholesalers and manufacturers they've stated that it isn't possible .. hence my query as I've done in care homes and residential properties with non-PIR fittings, wired from a photocell, but not a manufactured LED and integrated PIR (customers fitting was from LEDHUT)!

Every LED floodlight with integrated PIR I have ever fitted has had an over ride facility. I have never used LEDhut's PIR models though.