Led gu10 lights flashing on circuit

[markco]

Try swopping the 6 LED lamps between the kitchen and dinning room if the dinningroom is then ok and the problem transfers to kitchen may prove one of the lamps.

I tried that already but there where ok on the other rooms

 

[markco]

Try swopping the 6 LED lamps between the kitchen and dinning room if the dinningroom is then ok and the problem transfers to kitchen may prove one of the lamps.

I tried that already but there where ok on the other rooms

i didnt mean to offend its just ive seen a home owner do that exact thing and im unaware if there are builders , homeowners etc posting

You didnt offend mate all ideas are welcome

 

[markco]

Try swopping the 6 LED lamps between the kitchen and dinning room if the dinningroom is then ok and the problem transfers to kitchen may prove one of the lamps.

I tried that already but there where ok on the other rooms

i didnt mean to offend its just ive seen a home owner do that exact thing and im unaware if there are builders , homeowners etc posting

You didnt offend mate all ideas are welcome

I had a case where one gu10 led was faulty, although it lit and appeared fine on the face of it, whenever it was on it made all the other lamps on the circuit flicker. It was a bit of a headscratcher at the time.

I wish it was that, there dont flicker there flasher on off on off fast but not really fast like flicking

 

[Toneyz]

Well if you have swopped over the 6 from the kitchen with the ones in the dinning room and they are ok in the kitchen /ones from kitchen now flash in dinning room it will rule out the lamps may be as Richard Burns posted the switch not making .Is it all the lamps ?,Does having the lights on or off in the other rooms change the situation ? by- pass switch will rule out that theory of switch poor contact.

 

[markco]

Well if you have swopped over the 6 from the kitchen with the ones in the dinning room and they are ok in the kitchen /ones from kitchen now flash in dinning room it will rule out the lamps may be as Richard Burns posted the switch not making .Is it all the lamps ?,Does having the lights on or off in the other rooms change the situation ? by- pass switch will rule out that theory of switch poor contact.

 

[markco]

Not sure about that one didnt have the other rooms on while trying dining room will do that on monday this is doing my head in niceic said i quote ( your circuit of led lamps are too big ) in total there are 23 on this circuit ive seen more then this and there worked fine with the same lamps but i will beat this one way lol

 

[Pat H]

Easy to test the switch. Bypass the switch with a wire short and then power up the circuit.
Its possible the current draw of the lights is so low the awitch isnt engaging correctly.
But my guess is its more complex than that and its an interference being generated by the lamps.
You could try plugging them in while the circuits live. One light at a time. You may find you can get them all on ok. In which case its them all trying to start at the same time. The last light may need a resostive load to calm things down.

 

[markco]

Easy to test the switch. Bypass the switch with a wire short and then power up the circuit.
Its possible the current draw of the lights is so low the awitch isnt engaging correctly.
But my guess is its more complex than that and its an interference being generated by the lamps.
You could try plugging them in while the circuits live. One light at a time. You may find you can get them all on ok. In which case its them all trying to start at the same time. The last light may need a resostive load to calm things down.

 

[markco]

Ive tried putting one lamp in at a time while its live the first on is fine lights ok then as i put the second one in there both flash

 

[Pat H]

So it must be the electronics that drops the 230v to ELV in the lamp that is causing the supply to ripple. Its lije a mini startup surge. That is fed back down the supply feed and causes the other lights to switch off then back on and that just oscillates.
Look at this web page.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...IYlH13gaEO0qk8PfQ&sig2=dKQviUC5eSqIVwC1GES-OA

Not quite the same but the solution looks right.

 

[markco]

So it must be the electronics that drops the 230v to ELV in the lamp that is causing the supply to ripple. Its lije a mini startup surge. That is fed back down the supply feed and causes the other lights to switch off then back on and that just oscillates.
Look at this web page.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=9262.0&ved=0ahUKEwi4mt7sgIHQAhUJvRoKHTKHDzEQFggjMAA&usg=AFQjCNFZJNCcII-E_IYlH13gaEO0qk8PfQ&sig2=dKQviUC5eSqIVwC1GES-OA

Not quite the same but the solution looks right.

 

[markco]

So it must be the electronics that drops the 230v to ELV in the lamp that is causing the supply to ripple. Its lije a mini startup surge. That is fed back down the supply feed and causes the other lights to switch off then back on and that just oscillates.
Look at this web page.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=9262.0&ved=0ahUKEwi4mt7sgIHQAhUJvRoKHTKHDzEQFggjMAA&usg=AFQjCNFZJNCcII-E_IYlH13gaEO0qk8PfQ&sig2=dKQviUC5eSqIVwC1GES-OA

Not quite the same but the solution looks right.

 

[markco]

I brough a load up device on the advice from niceic and it did nothing

 

[Richard Burns]

You have tried the lamps in another location and they are OK.
Therefore there is a problem with the wiring for the dining room light circuit.
Check and reterminate all the connections from when it leaves the previous room and change or by pass any switching and this should allow you to identify the problem.
It is possible that a continuity test from last point of supply to end of dining room lights may show a high resistance on line or neutral and allow you to identify the problem more quickly.

 

[Toneyz]

Between Richard's mine and others posts it could only be the wiring or lamps at fault but it would be nice if poster's came back and said what the problem(s) were found. It would be nice to know advice given had been helpful.