Legal Dope

[alexander jackson]

Folks, A collegue of mine has started a legal prescription on weed, he is able to smoke it without fear of prosecution as it it is medicinal. He tells me that it is good stuff . Now he is not letting management know he is on it and I now have concerns as to his work abilities, concentration and all that, as a spark its dangerous enough going into a mains board etc, etc. Where do we, I stand on such matters.
Many thanks.

 

[alexander jackson]

He tells me he gets the same result as 'street' cannibis, I deduce from that he is a regular user anyway but this gives him carte-blanche to use it legally.

 

[alexander jackson]

Your link is to events in the Isle of Man. This island is not part of the UK.

Regardless its about the use not the geographical location, we all did the same exams and AM2 and use the BS 7671 regs and we are part of GB.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Perhaps you should talk to your colleague, in a professional way, and with an open mind. Ask him about his medical condition, how it affects his life, and how his medication helps him. Express your concerns about any potential side effects of his medication.

Also consider doing some research on the use of cannabis medically. There will be plenty of information on the internet, including forums where you can ask the opinions of others in his situation.

 

[Tom256]

Folks, A collegue of mine has started a legal prescription on weed, he is able to smoke it without fear of prosecution as it it is medicinal. He tells me that it is good stuff . Now he is not letting management know he is on it and I now have concerns as to his work abilities, concentration and all that, as a spark its dangerous enough going into a mains board etc, etc. Where do we, I stand on such matters.
Many thanks.

How do you stand? Well, here is the position. You have no 'Plausable Deniability' and this places you firmly in the chain of liability should an incident occur that a court or other legislative body should find to be related to this substance intake. The Health & Safety at Work Act is no longer your friend.

You have voiced your concerns as such you have concerns and as such I do wonder what response you would prefer. After all, social platforms do allow a person to select the response most in keeping with any pre-held bias.

So, you have no plausable deniability, your collegue has placed you in the chain of liability. Should an incident occur only a court can then decide the cost to you of the liability you now most certainly hold.

Further: Your Employer may have strict policies on such matters and perhaps they may argue by not bringing this to their notice [Dear Sir please refer to my previous comments on the matter of deniability] you placed customers, the public and the business at grave risk. A possible gross misconduct incident.

 

[brianmoooore]

we are part of GB.

The Isle of Man is not part of GB.

 

[Tom256]

How do you stand? Well, here is the position. You have no 'Plausable Deniability' and this places you firmly in the chain of liability should an incident occur that a court or other legislative body should find to be related to this substance intake. The Health & Safety at Work Act is no longer your friend.

You have voiced your concerns as such you have concerns and as such I do wonder what response you would prefer. After all, social platforms do allow a person to select the response most in keeping with any pre-held bias.

So, you have no plausable deniability, your collegue has placed you in the chain of liability. Should an incident occur only a court can then decide the cost to you of the liability you now most certainly hold.

Further: Your Employer may have strict policies on such matters and perhaps they may argue by not bringing this to their notice [Dear Sir please refer to my previous comments on the matter of deniability] you placed customers, the public and the business at grave risk. A possible gross misconduct incident.

p.s. Have a nice day

 

[alexander jackson]

The Isle of Man is not part of GB.

Correct but it is British Isles.

 

[mainline]

Folks, A collegue of mine has started a legal prescription on weed, he is able to smoke it without fear of prosecution as it it is medicinal. He tells me that it is good stuff . Now he is not letting management know he is on it and I now have concerns as to his work abilities, concentration and all that, as a spark its dangerous enough going into a mains board etc, etc. Where do we, I stand on such matters.
Many thanks.

Is he making mistakes with his work.

 

[Jock from the north]

Folks, A collegue of mine has started a legal prescription on weed, he is able to smoke it without fear of prosecution as it it is medicinal. He tells me that it is good stuff . Now he is not letting management know he is on it and I now have concerns as to his work abilities, concentration and all that, as a spark its dangerous enough going into a mains board etc, etc. Where do we, I stand on such matters.
Many thanks.

I wouldnt worry where you stand ,your not smoking it .if he is smoking at work someone will click sooner or later the stuff stinks.just don't stand under him footing a ladder lol.lots of people take medication that can affect work but as long as its prescribed by a uk doctor and It dosnt affect you while working then I would see no need to notify supervisors bosses etc.unless your operating heavy machinery even then if your body is used to the medicine it may not be an issue.the leaflet in prescription would explain all

 

[Tom256]

It is asked where 'we' stand. Interesting.

Section 7 of the HSWA exists. Only a court can say if you have anything to worry about. If you are aware that a practice that presents a risk of harm exists (that is the measure) and ignore it... Your call.
Does this action affect competency for role - Section 16 EAWR

Employment contracts exist - read it.

Human impact - living with consequence of actions - always and your call.

Perhaps there are more options but an assurance of no consequence well I would not assure you of such.
As I said, your call.

 

[alexander jackson]

Your link is to events in the Isle of Man. This island is not part of the UK.

So what, it does not matter the issue here is use of a drug in the work place.

Out of interest, what condition does your colleague have?

Not sure of this could be stress.

 

[westward10]

Speak to your immediate supervisor if you feel he is putting people at risk, don't make it your problem.

 

[Rockingit]

It'll come as no great surprise that this, and other substances, are a common occurrence in my 'work place'.

I have a very simple rule of thumb: if I don't consider you fit for work, then you're not, and I don't care whether it's drugs, last nights hangover, syphillis, covid.... whatever. In the UK that's a lot easier to police than say Amsterdam or the vast majority of the USA now (aka '420') but yours, mine and other's around us' safety remains paramount.

That said, echoing the thoughts of others, I'd have a deep suspiscion that this isn't a legit medical use anyway and that even if it IS then basically using it as an excuse to smoke street weed isn't legal as medicinal cannabis is a very different thing - same as the methadone/heroin differences.

Under the HSAW act the OP has a duty to report a concern to their line manager - whether publicly or quietly as a whistleblower doesn't matter (if the latter, then I'd be keeping some sort of secret evidence as having done so), but I can GUARANTEE that if the end of this thread becomes the OP posting that said mate had just killed or injured someone then they'd be feeling a whole lot more sh*tty than if they'd reported it yesterday instead of creating this post.

 

[Tom256]

Indeed, the idea that it can be ignored is not the case. HSWA places strict duties upon all persons.

Further consequences of actions: I have known times past when it was found out someone was working on electrical systems on a build, whilst under the influence of a substance and the duty holder once it became known, wanted everything checking and the entire crew was kicked off the site. What choice did he have!
They all knew and let it happen because I guess they figured "nothing to do with me".