Lighting circuit with no CPC, fail???

[Spannaz]

Hi Guys,

Just been to do a Condition report on a 30 year old installation. Both lighting circuits are wired in twin stranded steel cable with no CPC. The insulation test is good, but with the lack of CPC, and brass accessories, would you consider this as 'Satisfactory'. No RCD on lighting circuits either.

 

[loop3]

Steel cable? Rcd on light circuit to the bathroom? Is there metal conduit acting as cpc?

 

[ashrow]

LOL no cpc and metal light switches is UNSATISFACTORY

 

[loop3]

Sounds like a fail.

 

[loop3]

Take a pic and psot if possible, I'd like to see that !

 

[Octopus]

The ESC best practice guide on EICR's is well worth a read.

 

[Spannaz]

Steel cable? Rcd on light circuit to the bathroom? Is there metal conduit acting as cpc?

Nope, nothing acting as CPC. I did the report yesterday and failed it, customer rang this morning and tore strips off me as she's had someone else in and they've passed it. The other big issue is that the Insulation Resistance on the ringmain Line to CPC was 3.4M. OK, just scrapes through...but not good. How can someone pass it. They told her just to use plastic light switches and she'll be alright LOL There is even brass wall lights. I mean....really?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[Octopus]

Nope, nothing acting as CPC. I did the report yesterday and failed it, customer rang this morning and tore strips off me as she's had someone else in and they've passed it. The other big issue is that the Insulation Resistance on the ringmain Line to CPC was 3.4M. OK, just scrapes through...but not good. How can someone pass it. They told her just to use plastic light switches and she'll be alright LOL There is even brass wall lights. I mean....really?!?!?!?!?!?

Stick to your first report mate. She may not like it but its your neck on the line.

 

[Spannaz]

Stick to your first report mate. She may not like it but its your neck on the line.

You're right mate....feel a bit better now.

 

[Octopus]

You're right mate....feel a bit better now.

The minute you issue reports as the owner wants, or be willing to chang them, your credability has started to diminish.

I won't do EICR's for beer money. Customers can take my quote and either pay it or use someone else.

 

[ezzzekiel]

all accessories would need to be class 2 (including switches) for a c3 and warning label attached to cu, anything other would be a unsat report.

were you paid? what was the reason for the report?

thought no cpc dated back to early 60s around 50year ago.

 

[MDJ]

30 year old wiring with no cpc at all and brass fittings, run run as fast as you can :death:

 

[Guest55]

psst , the stranded "steel" cable will be tinned copper.
;-)

 

[Guest55]

30 year old wiring with no cpc at all and brass fittings, run run as fast as you can :death:

stop being soft , wheres your sense of adventure ?

 

[telectrix]

more than 30 years old. more like 40 - 50. with stranded cable, tinned or otherwise.