Maglock not working properly

[Rvp2019]

Hi,

I have just wired a maglock/intercom/phone door security system, but for some reason, the door magnet only locks when the unlock button is pressed on the intercom phone. That is to say, it's working the opposite way to how it should be working.

As far as I can see, I've checked and double checked the wiring diagram and all seems okay, but the maglock doesn't lock by default. It only locks when the unlock button is pressed on the intercom phone (Fermax).

I've attached the wiring diagram, as well the mains supply/battery I'm using.

Any ideas??

Cheers folks.

 

[cliffed]

relay connection wrong,ie: n/o n/c,don’t quite know the termination AB

 

[James]

Read the programming instructions,
some locks are power to lock, some are power to release.
there should be some info about how to wire and program each option.

 

[Rvp2019]

relay connection wrong,ie: n/o n/c,don’t quite know the termination AB

Thanks for your reply.

I'm a bit of a novice - I've wired this up myself in my office using the wiring diagram (bit of an enthusiast!).

What do you mean by the relay connection being wrong?

Thanks.

 

[James]

what make / model is the controller?

 

[MJPD29]

Thanks for your reply.

I'm a bit of a novice - I've wired this up myself in my office using the wiring diagram (bit of an enthusiast!).

What do you mean by the relay connection being wrong?

Thanks.

I think he means you may be connected to normally open (so connection is closed causing lock to engage when button is pressed) rather than normally closed, so when button is pressed the contact opens therefore releasing the lock

 

[Rvp2019]

Read the programming instructions,
some locks are power to lock, some are power to release.
there should be some info about how to wire and program each option.

Instructions don't seem to mention anything about this.
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what make / model is the controller?

It's a Fermax controller... but I don't have the model number to hand.

 

[Andy-1960]

I think that controller is designed for a magnetically released lock latch for use with a standard lock.
The latch is fixed to the frame and will work as normal with a key in case of power failure. When you press the button, the latch has a swivel part which is magnetically released and allows the door to open with the lock locked. Similar to the attached link.

Trimec ANSI Mortice Release - Fail Unlocked | IronmongeryDirect

Short faceplate for metal doors

www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk

 

[Rvp2019]

I think he means you may be connected to normally open (so connection is closed causing lock to engage when button is pressed) rather than normally closed, so when button is pressed the contact opens therefore releasing the lock

This is definitely the issue, but I can't seem to figure out how to rectify it. I've attached a photo of the wiring of the intercom phone if that helps?
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I think that controller is designed for a magnetically released lock latch for use with a standard lock.
The latch is fixed to the frame and will work as normal with a key in case of power failure. When you press the button, the latch has a swivel part which is magnetically released and allows the door to open with the lock locked. Similar to the attached link.

Trimec ANSI Mortice Release - Fail Unlocked | IronmongeryDirect

Short faceplate for metal doors

www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk

The supplier I bought it from assured me it can be used with the maglock I bought with it. It's a Z/L bracket maglock fitted above the door.

I guess I'll have to give them a call tomorrow to double check with them.

 

[PEG]

It sounds like the supplier may have to provide you with a wiring diagram/method,to enable the maglock,to function.

If it requires a permanent supply,to maintain security...may need thinking about

It may be worth checking that the supply transformer can operate at the required duty cycle.

 

[snowhead]

You can reverse the function of some locks.
Looks like you can do with this one, the instruction should be with it.
However if this is in a Communal Area or fire exit route there are other issues to consider;

Trimec ES110 Electric Strike, 12/24Vdc Selectable Fail Secure, with Short and Long Faceplate

Trimec ES110 Strike Mortice 12/24VDC PTL/PTO Short/Long Faceplate. - Mortice Release 35mm Deep - 12/24VDC - Short & Long SS Faceplate - Fail Safe Reversible to Fail Secure - Weather Resistant IP56 - 5 Year Warranty

norbain.com

 

[Flanders]

When we used to fit them we would connect a 12 volt ac relay in the place of the lock which would switch a 12 volt DC power supply for the maglock you will also need a press to exit switch to get back out the door along with an emergency green break glass

 

[buzzlightyear]

it would be nice if the people that gave him that kit should have given him the write diagram .or email fermix .

 

[Flash]

have you got the correct power source for the maglock? I noticed you have ac but don't see dc. I had the same recently with a different manufacturer and they didn't supply all the relays and wiring diagrams as the maglock was an option, even though the customer asked for the maglock option.