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a customer has asked us to wire up a caravan park thats he's building on some of his land but we're struggling to decide on the size of the sub main to power it all.
he has 2 fields which will each have 20 caravans in them. The plan is to supply a busbar chamber in a mains room at the start of the first field, which will supply a distribution board for the first 20 caravans. the supply then needs to get to the second field with another board for the next 20 caravans. The caravans are fed by purpose made hook-up points which supply 2 caravans, so there will be 10 circuits from each fuseboard, each supplying 2 caravans. For once the load isnt the problem as it should only be 100A per phase on a 4 core SWA, but the volt drop is another matter. the first field is 180m from the origin, and the second field is another 120m from that.

it looks like we need a 95mm to get to the first field (dropping 6.39v along the way) and a 70mm from there to the second field (dropping another 2.86v) for a combined volt drop of 9.25v, allowing a little tiny bit of volt drop in the final circuits.

then we hit another problem, the furthest caravan in the first field is 160m from where the customer was planning to have the supply. even on a 6mm armoured we are talking something like another 20v dropped.

so, if we supply the fields with 95mm 4 core SWA we will struggle to terminate it into anything, and even if we managed that we'd need to feed each caravan with maybe 16mm 2 core SWA, which wouldnt terminate into the hook ups. add to that our customer would need the income of a small country to pay for all that copper, we need a better idea.

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Havent got the books with me but how about wiring it in a big sub mains ring?
the caravan supply boxes would then be your D.Bs.

As it is a ring the rules for ring circuits apply so total volt drop (Idx mvAmx L)/4
 
Has anyone ran this past planning,I think you'll find they will insist on a pole mounted tranny supplied by the DNO at the outset, and thats before HSE and the insurance company has a go. A client of mine is proposing something similar and a lorry load of hoops has arrived
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Curious, why would the DNO want to be involved if a suitable electrical distribution layout is found?? Why a pole mounted TX, are you saying that the distribution has got to be via overhead?? Now i know HSE like to stick there nose in where it's neither wanted or needed, but surely when the the distribution layout conforms to the relevant standards etc, where would they find fault??


Perhaps the distribution layout didn't comply with the relevant standards, on the project you know of?? I don't know, ...so these are just questions i'm throwing into the pot!! lol!!
 
the dno dont but planning is another fish entirerelly, cant dig there , cant fell those trees , to near a water course, ask any farmer around here about getting a supply to a new barn etc, on a pole just inside your property and no farther, no ug cable on grazed or arable land, not under roads where tractors and implements are likely to travel
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Ah just noticed your up in Bonny Scotland...

I can only go from where i lived in the South East of England, where it was pretty common to see the power supply companies laying 11 and 33KV across farm land, both Direct buried and ducted!! Can't think of a reason why they don't allow Buried cables on a designated caravan site, got to be a safer bet than an overhead set-up!!

Perhaps all these unfounded rules, are the reason farms electrical installations are generally so bad, ....all done under the table, ...so to speak ...lol!!!
 
That is certainly the case on occasion, one I did few years back had some very recent "modifications" one of those where after 10 mins the enthusiasim drains right out you, cos you just know it is goin to be a uphill task explaining to farmer X that "no" I cant run "some armour" to his "new" (converted shipping container) shed, although I did once get a really helpfull chap who had erected a brand new all metal barn for housing goats and the RA was pitifull and the ground was soney as the rocky mountains however I asked him to weld a couple of lugs to the steelwork what a differance as the steel went down 3 metres apparantly ,so not all tillers of the soil are shall we say frugal
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