MICC/PYRO advice please

[PJH2903]

Been to a quote for a job this morning. Customer has just bought the house and wanted me to quote to replace/move an old fuse board as there were 2 in the house.

On looking at the job it appears that the old unit in the kitchen is being fed from the newer unit under the stairs in MICC/Pyro, the install date on the newer board is 2011 so don't know why the original spark did not just replace it at the time.

Told the customer I will need to do a full eicr to see what needs doing in the rest of the property but the old board will need removing (which he understands) and I would need to trace the circuits to see how I can best get them back to the main board.
As there is no labelling on either board I have suggested he plays flick the switch and makes a list of which mcb switches what off to save a bit of time when I return.

I have never had the ‘pleasure’ of working with micc as I only do domestic work so my question is do I need to take any precautions when I rip it all out?

 

[ipf]

Could be interesting how they got it through such a small hole with a pot on it.

Put it through before making off....maybe...

 

[westward10]

Put it through before making off....maybe...

Maybe but you would gland it surely. Need the optimistic tag.

 

[ipf]

Maybe but you would gland it surely. Need the optimistic tag.

I would.....and you would.....but would they?
...and don't call me Shirley
Agree with the opti.

 

[davesparks]

Could be interesting how they got it through such a small hole with a pot on it.

The hole is probably in the lid so that it just fits over the cable.

 

[Pete999]

Put it through before making off....maybe...

The hole is probably in the lid so that it just fits over the cable.

Or put it through the hole, stripped it back and never bothered with a pot or gland, may be seen that a few times

 

[TJ Anderson]

Or put it through the hole, stripped it back and never bothered with a pot or gland, may be seen that a few times

Yeah, I've seen that too, sleeved and taped only....With a jubilee around the copper clad to clamp a cpc to!!.... Also seen many in control panels where multiple multi core pyro's brought in through same hole and then pots only fitted........There were some rough old boys out there too back in the day lol

I'm quite a fan of MICC and do enjoy when I get to work with it.

 

[Pete999]

Yeah, I've seen that too, sleeved and taped only....With a jubilee around the copper clad to clamp a cpc to!!.... Also seen many in control panels where multiple multi core pyro's brought in through same hole and then pots only fitted........There were some rough old boys out there too back in the day lol

Nearly as bad as some of the rough young boys of today!!!!!!!

 

[TJ Anderson]

Nearly as bad as some of the rough young boys of today!!!!!!!

Definitely, except they now lash in FP200 and make a hash of that instead! Haha

 

[ipf]

Definitely, except they now lash in FP200 and make a hash of that instead! Haha

The number of swa lash ups these days has gone through the roof.
It seems to be every other time I come across some. If they can't terminate the armour correctly it's slice a shroud because they've forgotten it.

 

[Pete999]

The number of swa lash ups these days has gone through the roof.
It seems to be every other time I come across some. If they can't terminate the armour correctly it's slice a shroud because they've forgotten it.

I don't know about you, but I used to take pride in first fixing cables of all sorts, making sure they were clipped nice, entering the enclosure properly, nice an neat, now slap it in know matter, as long as it tests OK and it works, it will be OK, what has become of trafesmen and Women? all gone to pot, I know who I lay the blame on and you don't need me to explain that do you?

 

[ipf]

I don't know about you, but I used to take pride in first fixing cables of all sorts, making sure they were clipped nice, entering the enclosure properly, nice an neat, now slap it in know matter, as long as it tests OK and it works, it will be OK, what has become of trafesmen and Women? all gone to pot, I know who I lay the blame on and you don't need me to explain that do you?

….and the fact that testing has been carried out, when it is, shows that it's been someone who should know better. Plenty couldn't care less....or don't know any better.
Ah! Stop moanin'! T*at's life, I suppose.

 

[Pete999]

….and the fact that testing has been carried out, when it is, shows that it's been someone who should know better. Plenty couldn't care less....or don't know any better.
Ah! Stop moanin'! T*at's life, I suppose.

And therein lies the crux of the problems!!!!!

 

[Dustydazzler]

The number of swa lash ups these days has gone through the roof.
It seems to be every other time I come across some. If they can't terminate the armour correctly it's slice a shroud because they've forgotten it.

I see regularly swa terminated via a plastic stuffing gland with all the wire strands just completely cut off at both ends and just the inner cores shoved up the plastic gland....rough as you like but if the new lot aren't shown how to fit a proper swa gland they won't bother

 

[ipf]

I see regularly swa terminated via a plastic stuffing gland with all the wire strands just completely cut off at both ends and just the inner cores shoved up the plastic gland....rough as you like but if the new lot aren't shown how to fit a proper swa gland they won't bother

I saw that with twenty odd bollard lights, on a long driveway to a club, not long ago. No stuffers, though, just swa's taped together in the chassis. It's disgraceful and total ignorance. Only found out after a couple had been flattened by parking experts.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I saw that with twenty odd bollard lights, on a long driveway to a club, not long ago. No stuffers, though, just swa's taped together in the chassis. It's disgraceful and total ignorance. Only found out after a couple had been flattened by parking experts.

If the person doing the job isn’t going to even bother using the armour and cuts it all off , wouldn’t it be better just to use hi-tiff or even rubber flex...