Minimum socket heights - first floor!

[ash2020]

Another minimum socket height question!

Material change of use - New flat in an old warehouse so I guess you could call it new build.

There's no way you'd get a wheelchair or anybody of limited mobility up to the first and second floors, so do the sockets still have to be min 450 and the switches max 1200? If so, the regs. are stupid!
Cheers
Andy

 

[scotsparky]

bald he could have a socket under his bath as long as access to it was with Key or tool as it would be then out of zone. It would have to be RCD protected though and i have no idea why he would want on there.

 

[baldsparkies]

bald he could have a socket under his bath as long as access to it was with Key or tool as it would be then out of zone. It would have to be RCD protected though and i have no idea why he would want on there.

True enough, but like you said why? possibly a shower pump, or hot tub supply, I would look for better locations if possible.
Anyway, we are going off subject slapped wrists

 

[dragon-av]

Who told you that??

The Regs book.....There are huge flaws in the actual regulations and the interpritation of them its a brave man who doesn't go sheep like and follow the crowd, A lecturer of mine once proved that having "live" connection fused plugs as we do in the UK is potentially more dangerous than the unfused Euro plug 2 pin plug..... Yet we still ahve 3 pin fused live plugs!

 

[Spudnik]

..... Yet we still ahve 3 pin fused live plugs!

Thats because its protecting the cable.

The Regs book.....

Is there a Reg in particular?

 

[Mac]

The Regs book.....There are huge flaws in the actual regulations and the interpritation of them its a brave man who doesn't go sheep like and follow the crowd, A lecturer of mine once proved that having "live" connection fused plugs as we do in the UK is potentially more dangerous than the unfused Euro plug 2 pin plug..... Yet we still ahve 3 pin fused live plugs!

I agree with you mate.A lot of the countries in europe use the 2 pin plug and the IT earthing system,why can't they use it here.Too health and safety conscience,and it's and easy way to print money with all the update coursesSorry should have read the beginning of the thread,it seems to be straying a bit of the main track

 

[scotsparky]

If we didnt have fused plugs we couldnt use rings as its the fuse in the plug that allows us to derate from 32A to 13a if it wasnt there thenits 4mm flexes for us or the 2.5 radials and 20A MCBs with 2.5 flexes.

 

[kung]

Sparks 1234, he pays his money he gets his choice.

So if he was drunk 99% of the time and spent the 99% of his time on the floor and wanted the sockets 30mm from ffl thats ok ! Cool that will save cable !

 

[dragon-av]

Is there a Reg in particular?

Like always its stupidly vague and hinges on definitions http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADM_2004.pdf 8.3 as you can see they have suggested a means of satisfying M1 so everyone assumes thats teh only way, it isnt... As long as you satisfy M1 you're fine.

Just because someone wrote a book doesn't mean thats how you ahve to do it.... It may not be practical to do it all from first principles but then again the regulations are always very vague.

Basic Electrical Installation Work - Google Book Search

It all hinges on the definition of a "habbitable room"

 

[j_mccl]

As far as i understand, on an existing installation you do not have to improve the accessibility of the socket outlets and switches however you are not allowed to make them worse.
If the new work being carried out requires building regulations then i believe that all socket outlets and switches will have to be installed between 450 and 1200mm with the exeption of the kitchen as this will be on the plans submitted to building control.

 

[EddieB]

MarkSpark666
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MarkSpark666 lets not be daft here the original query was on socket heights and if the paying customer says he wants them at a a specific height he can have them at that height. Where does the location of the sockets come into it? and would you honestly expect a spark to install a socket in your suggested location, come on now!

MarkSpark 666 lets not be daft here the original thread is on heights not locations