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Good afternoon all,

Just newly qualified, so not registered with recognised body to do self certs. So having new kitchen fitted, and existing sockets in old cupboards just needed fitting into new cupboards. Fitter insisted that he needed a MWC so another sparky fitted sockets and raised MWC, total of ÂŁ60. Is this right, as from what I can see, there was no alterations or addotions to existing circuit, so did it need MWC...or am I being 'special'?
 
We seem to be debating a minor issue here, excuse the pun. I agree swapping like for like doesn't necessarily mean a MNWC is required.
Either way the client has a record that, accessories were changed, the client will no necessarily appreciate what work has been needed to swap these face plate, so in essence are we just arguing over who is right or wrong here, there are differing opinions, as there always will be, but in the grand scheme of things, no one got hurt the client has a record of what was done and when, so really no big deal, but I'll still opt for the MNWC.
A loop & RCD (min test) takes minutes.
 
So, to answer the questions posed above:
No cables were moved / re-routed (unless you class the hole in the unit as a re-route but was to original position. I'm the client and I would have been happy having just newly qualified just refitting back into cupboards. It was the kitchen fitter who was insistent about certification. Which I understand but there were no modifications or alterations. Can't wait to get registered with accredited body.
 
Some of the Joiners, kitchen fitters, plumbers etc I work with are the same.
They want someone they trust to do the work and issue paperwork as it is part of the overall job and ultimately any problems could adversely affect their reputation in the future.
ÂŁ60 in the scheme of things is nothing. :)
 
So, to answer the questions posed above:
No cables were moved / re-routed (unless you class the hole in the unit as a re-route but was to original position. I'm the client and I would have been happy having just newly qualified just refitting back into cupboards. It was the kitchen fitter who was insistent about certification. Which I understand but there were no modifications or alterations. Can't wait to get registered with accredited body.

Of course in BS7671, notes on Minnow Worrying Credential (MWC), suggest the person ordering the work should receive the MWC and pass a copy onto the owner of the installation. Perhaps the kitchen fitter been spending lonely nights, reading BS7671, to try and solve his insomnia. :D
 
So, to answer the questions posed above:
No cables were moved / re-routed (unless you class the hole in the unit as a re-route but was to original position. I'm the client and I would have been happy having just newly qualified just refitting back into cupboards. It was the kitchen fitter who was insistent about certification. Which I understand but there were no modifications or alterations. Can't wait to get registered with accredited body.

If this was just alterations and no new circuits, there is nothing stopping you (newly qualified) doing the work yourself and producing the MEWC (Minor Electrical Works certificate). The work you have described is not notifiable and therefore you don't need to be a member of a scam (registered scheme as you called it).

Jay
 

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