Moaner

[cliffed]

i know I'm a old git,but here's one for you,been quite cold lately,got some youngsters working with us,nice & warm in the offices,when it's brekkie time,I always sit in my van,especially if it's cold outside.The lads also sit in their van,but switches the engine on,to get warm.
Me,I put on another layer of clothes,so...the vans are on tracker so they know what's happening,back at the yard,does anyone care.
In my day we just wouldn't do that,wasting diesel etc.
Last year in 30°heat,a lad sat in his van,I went over to him & said why have you got the engine running,wound down his window,I've got the air conditioning on,am I mad to get frustrated ha ha

 

[Doomed]

Sorry, but hate site radios. I AM Mr Grumpy.

 

[LankyWill]

Nothing worse than fault finding on a new build and some wood butcher has his radio on max volume(radio 1). I turn it off and tell him its staying until my brain can actually comprehend the abortion that is drylinig. Simplest job on site and still they manage to screw cables and mash boxes so the lugs are facked....HOW

 

[GMES]

Bring back the donkey jacket.

Giz a job I can do that.
Name the programme without Google

 

[uksrevivor]

Boys from the black stuff and not googled lol Yosher Hughes if I remember right

 

[uksrevivor]

Bring back the donkey jacket.

I still have one and still wear it warm as toast in it although the plastic shoulder pads are a bit worse for wear now LOL

 

[westward10]

I still have one and still wear it warm as toast in it although the plastic shoulder pads are a bit worse for wear now LOL

Stunk like an old donkey when they were wet, I acquired one with BEA on the vinyl bit at the back, my mates dad used to work over at Heathrow and I don't know how this is relevant but he had a Sherpa van, probably a smuggler.

 

[westward10]

Giz a job I can do that.
Name the programme without Google

Probably topical with the recent threads on fast track qualifications, "giz a job I can do that"

 

[David M]

Times have changed that's for sure, things were tough back in those days.

But the pace of life has increased now - No time for breaks, pestering customers from mobile phones, everything has to be done yesterday, lower quality items... the list goes on. This game is still a tough one just in a different way these days.
I long for the times when I can get to site @ 8 have a brew and a chat, start work, knock off at 10 for breakfast, start back work15 mins later, knock off again at 1 for lunch, read the paper, start back work half hour later, collect tools up at 4:45 off site at 5, straight home for tea, sit and relax in front of the tv...

These days its up at 5ish on site for 7 latest, work straight through till 6 ish, may fit in ten mins for a quick sandwich. All this time phone never stops, chasing orders, fixing problems... home for 7 straight on computer doing paper work, tea @ 9, TV for half hour, quick shower, bed and then start over for another day... till Sunday where I might get a couple of hours free time when I finally switch my mobile off!

Oh The joys of running your own business!

 

[Deleted member 93172]

Buckle clipping in the cold was finger numbing, holding those little pins and hoping you don't hit your finger whilst doing it, I can recall the pain as I type.

 

[Pete999]

Buckle clipping in the cold was finger numbing, holding those little pins and hoping you don't hit your finger whilst doing it, I can recall the pain as I type.

Ohhh Yeah remember it well

 

[Toneyz]

Ohhh Yeah remember it well

and polishing the MICC (PYRO)

 

[Pete999]

and polishing the MICC (PYRO)

Are you extracting it Ant? I think you are

 

[Pete999]

Are you extracting it Ant? I think you are

YOURE GETTING THE GIST IF THI

Are you extracting it Ant? I think you are

You getting very vocal Ant

 

[Toneyz]

When I was nearly out of my time I was working with an Electrician on a housing site, first job in the morning was to look for oil drum and off cuts of timber, at about 09:45 get a fire going in the drum, after knocking air holes in it to toast or butties, remember no doors or windows int these houses yet, like you say difficult to get up after all that comfort.

HOT WORKS PERMIT PETE

 

[Pete999]

HOT WORKS PERMIT PETE

No Survival

 

[Toneyz]

No Survival

Hope your doing it to your RAMS and method statement.Is it one of your qals on the back of your gold H & S card

 

[Pete999]

Hope your doing it to your RAMS and method statement.Is it one of your qals on the back of your gold H & S card

Gold H&S card whats that when its home

 

[Leesparkykent]

Gold H&S card whats that when its home

ECS Card Types | ECS Installation Electrician | ECS Gold Card - https://www.ecscard.org.uk/Card-Types/Core-%e2%80%93-Electrical/ECS-Installation-Electrician

 

[Pete999]

ECS Card Types | ECS Installation Electrician | ECS Gold Card - https://www.ecscard.org.uk/Card-Types/Core-%e2%80%93-Electrical/ECS-Installation-Electrician

And what money making course do you have to get hold of this gold card?

 

[telectrix]

it's just a re badged JIB gold card. so it's nvq3.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Its just a JIB card. So anyone who is qualified, holds the 2382 17th edition qualification and sat and passed the H&S exam.

Anyone who qualified after 1999 needs an NVQ, before 1999 copy of apprenticeship deeds or apprenticeship completion certificate plus 2382 17th edition and pass the H&S exam.

I know a lot of slating happens towards the JIB but IMO there about the only thing out there that's trying to maintain a level of competence to get electricians status. Someone who done one of these 18 day short courses certainly couldn't get one. This is the reason these short courses push them towards self employment as to get on any decent site now you need your JIB card which they wouldn't be eligible to apply for.

 

[7029 dave]

Lee, and I have heard the C&G 236 don't mean nowt, you will only get a labours card. SHOUT we were good competent people.They can .... it up their bums.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Lee, and I have heard the C&G 236 don't mean nowt, you will only get a labours card. SHOUT we were good competent people.They can .... it up their bums.

What you heard was incorrect then Dave...If you done your 236 before 1999 (before the NVQ was introduced), have your 2382 to prove your up to date with the regs and sit the H&S exam then you would be graded as an electrician.

 

[7029 dave]

I did look at the JIB website, and I was under the impression that you needed NVQ3, I passed out in 1983 c&g 236 parts 1 and 2.Still the best course MICC, steel conduit etc. If you did not pass written or practical deferred end of.

 

[Dave OCD]

I did the same but completed in 1985.

 

[7029 dave]

It was a bloody good course Dave, well I'm going to say that,did not do the c to busy with work, and hated the college part, did you do the c Dave.?

 

[Dave OCD]

I started to do the C Dave but I didn't enjoy the theory [95% of which you'd never look at again in a working lifetime] then I crashed my motorbike when a woman pulled out in front of me and broke a wrist and ankle which helped get me out of it.

 

[Pete999]

I started to do the C Dave but I didn't enjoy the theory [95% of which you'd never look at again in a working lifetime] then I crashed my motorbike when a woman pulled out in front of me and broke a wrist and ankle which helped get me out of it.

Well I have to say I am certainly glad I did the C course Dave set me up for some good jobs

 

[Dave OCD]

Yes it would give more opportunities Pete, at the time it wasn't for me though.

 

[Pete999]

Yes it would give more opportunities Pete, at the time it wasn't for me though.

Did you ever regret not doing it? I know several of my past colleagues who did, just out of interest.

 

[Davidlee1983]

Need Help Please

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[Wilko]

Welcome David !
You could start a new thread with this one if you like?
It will need a bit of fixing up, that's for sure.

 

[Davidlee1983]

this was after a new combi boiler to the house which is currently been rented from Gentoo. who do i complain to, they seem to think this is acceptable

 

[Davidlee1983]

Having a problem starting thread, How??

 

[Davidlee1983]

need help, this is gentoo contractors work after a combi boiler was installed. This job was bought off as complete, could you explain in detail all that is wrong and who i can send these to as a complaint. It is located below the stairs, in a cupboard that was in constant use and is easy to access. We have children living with us. I would expect that people would lose there jobs for such shoddy workmanship, people need more respect for thereselfs.

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[Wilko]

There is an orange "post new thread" button on the top and bottom of the forum page.

 

[telectrix]

explain in detail all that is wrong.


everything above floor level.

 

[Dave OCD]

Did you ever regret not doing it? I know several of my past colleagues who did, just out of interest.

Sorry Pete, I've just noticed your post, no never regretted it. I did 24 years working as an electrical inspector with the Council mostly to do with highways electrical stuff, streetlighting, signs, traffic signals that kind of thing. During that time I had bosses with HNC level qualifications who honestly didn't have a grasp of the basics and no practical ability, it got so frustrating and stressful that I 'escaped' with a bit of redundancy in 2014 and set up on my own. My big regret is wishing I'd done it a long time ago.

 

[RWJ]

Someone who done one of these 18 day short courses certainly couldn't get one.

You may have spoken too soon by the looks of the article in this months NICEIC / ELECSA propaganda literature (Page 8)

You only need to have passed three NICEIC (assume DI is included) or Elecsa assessments as a QS to qualify for a JIB Gold card!

 

[Leesparkykent]

You may have spoken too soon by the looks of the article in this months NICEIC / ELECSA propaganda literature (Page 8)

You only need to have passed three NICEIC (assume DI is included) or Elecsa assessments as a QS to qualify for a JIB Gold card!

I haven't read it mate. Surely that's just to add QS on to your card which you must meet the criteria to get?