Motorway Lighting installation - PIR Code 2 recommendation query

[Johny Foreigner]

I have had similiar thoughts to the ones you mention.

I guess it all boils down to interpretation. I would prefer to be totally safe rather than 'take a risk' on an installation not being compromised and putting someone at risk. Unfortunately, others within the organisation I work for want me to agree to leaving the circuits energised until the fault is cleared. That period is taking months due to fianancial restrictions. I feel that that is unacceptable. The period of time it takes to make the repair must be reasonable, not excessive in my view.

 

[mogga]

IQ Was that the close/backcourt lighting dogs tied to scaffold with metal chain one about 10 yrs back?

BTW OP the risk to emergency services ect doesnt come into it as they arent going to touch anything till power is OFF and ISOLATED due to possibility that even though light is out col has been struck and damage caused doesnt always trip the breaker iv had one where col was lyin on the ground LIVE due to being ripped from the ground and gland being ripped off end of armour by impact live core touching col (Light out col live ) so your risk assesment is flaued as there is more likleyhood of a crash due to no lighting at a hzardous area

as for Op stating that he is a " As a Motorway lighting engineer/designer I personally feel that we should not light a road using a non-compliant installation. Particularly in todays 'blame culture' society." I recon you should consult your seniors as oposed to coming on a forum and looking for others to blame by going into the office and saying " the guys on the forum said XYZZZZ"

If during my time with 3 different councils I had taken it upon myself to turn off faulty installations half o Glasgow would be dark notice FAULTY as oposed to DANGEROUS

 

[IQ Electrical]

IQ Was that the close/backcourt lighting dogs tied to scaffold with metal chain one about 10 yrs back?

BTW OP the risk to emergency services ect doesnt come into it as they arent going to touch anything till power is OFF and ISOLATED due to possibility that even though light is out col has been struck and damage caused doesnt always trip the breaker iv had one where col was lyin on the ground LIVE due to being ripped from the ground and gland being ripped off end of armour by impact live core touching col (Light out col live ) so your risk assesment is flaued as there is more likleyhood of a crash due to no lighting at a hzardous area

as for Op stating that he is a " As a Motorway lighting engineer/designer I personally feel that we should not light a road using a non-compliant installation. Particularly in todays 'blame culture' society." I recon you should consult your seniors as oposed to coming on a forum and looking for others to blame by going into the office and saying " the guys on the forum said XYZZZZ"

If during my time with 3 different councils I had taken it upon myself to turn off faulty installations half o Glasgow would be dark notice FAULTY as oposed to DANGEROUS

This was the report:

Testing of supplies to street lighting - Edmundson Electrical

 

[Johny Foreigner]

Mogga,

I had hoped by signing up to this forum I would get reasoned, sensible discussion to the query I have. Obviously, this is not the case. If you had bothered to fully read my posts you would see that I was standing by my thoughts on the problem. I was trying to prove myself wrong. I should have known better than to do this. This will be my last post.

You Cretin!

 

[IQ Electrical]

Mogga,

I had hoped by signing up to this forum I would get reasoned, sensible discussion to the query I have. Obviously, this is not the case. If you had bothered to fully read my posts you would see that I was standing by my thoughts on the problem. I was trying to prove myself wrong. I should have known better than to do this. This will be my last post.

You Cretin!

I'm sure mogga didn't mean any offence and the discussion has been good, bringing up some valid points-you'd be most welcome to stay here and contribute, it's a great forum!

Oh and mogga's from Scotland, not Crete!

 

[mogga]

I ddint mean to cause offence but I have obviously upset you by pointing out that IMO you are wrong in anting to turn the lighting off

IQ thats been a long standing problem associated with 5th core as iv said in other street lighting post 5th core be it UG or overheadline are a right royal PITA as they are inveriably old paper over lead with a lead bell end in the col the cores are rotten the pitch dried out and puting a Zs on them normaly brings a right good crackling these are sometimes protected by 60>80 a fuses covering a huge area and controled by contactor some of the overheadline stuff doesnt have fuses to the fittings hence a right few firey wooden poles around
as for jonny Forigner Im sorry buddy but I still maintain my posistion CODE 2 doesnt need isolating as it MAY cause a fault in the same way that "Going equiped to break intpo a house" is a law I disagree with due to me carrying my tools home on the bus ect I could have been done several times over

 

[UKMeterman]

Could you put a protection relay on the feeders, this could indicate there is an urgent problem that needs invesitgating?

 

[jeremy]

Have you ascertained why the Zs is too high?