Moving to radials in Kitchens

[Bobby34]

I'm going to quote for a kitchen rewire shortly where the client is having a new kitchen fitted and new appliances and am contemplating doing away with the traditional 2.5 ring final on a 32amp mcb and running a 4mm radial instead. Clipped direct is 36amp so could still use a 32amp but with todays energy efficiency could probably even use a 20amp mcb and have the option to move up to 32 if needed.

Just wanted to see what peoples thoughts are whether anyone has done it or if the ring final in the kitchen is here to stay?

 

[GBDamo]

Dryer and washing machine should be in the utility room, tsk.

Most of the stuff listed above gets used once and then is hidden away and given away to a charity shop 5 years down the line.

Utility room? is that the meter cupboard?

This is oop North, we've only just move the bogs indoors.

 

[static zap]

Cooker circuits with super BOOST Inductive hobs !
and Showers ,seem to more focused on efficient use of time rather than kW.

 

[Pete999]

Why the reluctance to using 2.5mm? Lot easier and cheaper.

What size OCPD?

 

[cliffed]

Personally if your fed up with ring mains wire radials 2.5 mm off 20 amp mcb...easy

 

[Pete999]

I often use radials domestic and commercial. There is some advantages to this. Testing is straightforward and installation in many ways. I usually do 32a. While I agree that wont work for some situations regarding C factors most of the time it does and more so for commercial. While you can do branching with radial circuits, much like the continental method I think it can become a nightmare later when additions and alterations come in to it. As well it is difficult to put three 4mm² into the terminations on sockets. It is a matter of judgement of course regards use of and future use as to whether a radial will be suitable load wise. Never had any problems so far with overloads.

You can, if you wish wore 1 non fused from a 4mm2 32 Amp radial in 2.5mm2 or if you want a fused spur in 1.5mm2, providing you don't go over 75M2 floor area.

 

[telectrix]

Dishwasher.... Mrs Tel
Coffee maker.... Mrs Tel
Juicer.. ????
Smoothie maker...???
TVs...can't have 'er indoors watching telly i want my dinner.
Plate warmer .... for snowflakes
Steam oven .. she's got a steam iron
Plinth heater..for wimps
second ovens... no room
Instant hot water taps..... shower upstairs,

 

[GBDamo]

Dishwasher.... Mrs Tel
Coffee maker.... Mrs Tel
Juicer.. ????
Smoothie maker...???
TVs...can't have 'er indoors watching telly i want my dinner.
Plate warmer .... for snowflakes
Steam oven .. she's got a steam iron
Plinth heater..for wimps
second ovens... no room
Instant hot water taps..... shower upstairs,

Luddite!!

 

[telectrix]

Chauvanistic and Proud.

 

[Pete999]

Dishwasher.... Mrs Tel
Coffee maker.... Mrs Tel
Juicer.. ????
Smoothie maker...???
TVs...can't have 'er indoors watching telly i want my dinner.
Plate warmer .... for snowflakes
Steam oven .. she's got a steam iron
Plinth heater..for wimps
second ovens... no room
Instant hot water taps..... shower upstairs,

In my house at present smoothie maker AINT GOT ONE
Steam Iron in the cupboard
Fan heater for HID
Hot water Kettle
Tea Coffee Kettle
Plate
warmer who kin needs one
She has a TV what more can I say
Access to fresh air Patio Door Telephone extension
Boiler control near by
Like Tel Chauvinist and proud of it
Kick plate set in two inches so She can get closer to the sink
Kitchen all white to go with the wedding dress
Should I go on? remember the Son is a forum member so perhaps I had better STFU

 

[telectrix]

as my old man used to say..... " i wear the trousers, your mother wears the knickers ".

 

[Pete999]

Correct Tel but a trifle un PC don't you think? I bin taking Snow flake lessons, curtesy of HID

 

[telectrix]

i don't give a monkey's for all this pc shyte. if we'd had it back in 1940, we'd not have gone to war, afraid of offending despots with Charlie Chaplin moustaches .

 

[Pete999]

i don't give a monkey's for all this pc shyte. if we'd had it back in 1940, we'd not have gone to war, afraid of offending despots with Charlie Chaplin moustaches .

Ouch touched a nerve Tel?

 

[telectrix]

not me mate.i got no nerves. guy once told me i had the emotional responses of a house brick.

 

[static zap]

....afraid of offending despots with Charlie Chaplin moustaches .

So that 's what Pythons "Ministry of silly walks is about" important training for the youth.